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How My Conversion To Catholicism Will affect The Work Of Stand True – Show Your Support

Probably one of the saddest parts of me taking my journey into the Catholic Church is the loss of support from many friends of Stand True – Christ Centered Pro-life. With my announcement I know that a large chunk of financial support has disappeared, much more will probably follow. Much of our funding came from protestant ministers, churches and lay people who are not happy about this.

I want to make it very clear that the while I have returning to the Catholic Church this does not change the focus of the work of Stand True- Christ Centered Pro-life.  We have always worked with both Catholic and Protestant youth to build a culture of life and bring an end to abortion.  We will continue to reach out to all Christians and work with all Christian churches in this endeavor.

Stand True is a pro-life organization and will follow the teaching of the Catholic Church on all matters of life and contraception; something we have actually done since day one. You will probably see more of a Catholic flavor to Stand True but we will always be welcoming to all Christians just as we have been to Catholics in the past. Stand True’s commitment to educate, equip and activate the youth of the world with the pro-life message will not change.

Do you believe in our mission? Do you want to see Stand True Continue? Instead of just playing jokes today why not start April off with a donation to Stand True -Christ Centered Pro-life to help us continue to save babies and fight Planned Parenthood?

Make an online donation by clicking the donate button at the top of this page or at http://www.standtrue.com

Anything helps $5, $10, $25, $50, $100, $500 what ever you can help with will make a difference.

The Stand True bank account is down to less than $300 dollars right now and we could really use a boost in donations this month.  The work we do depends on your generosity and donations; can you help give us a kick start for April.

You can also mail a donation to

Stand True – PO Box 890 – Troy, OH 45373

105 Comments

  1. Posted April 1, 2011 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    God bless you, brother! I’m so excited to welcome you into the Catholic Church!! I will spread this around and you will GET your funding!

    Keep up your wonderful, pro-life work! I’m praying for you!

  2. Posted April 1, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    God Bless you, Brian! Like Elizabeth, I’m so very happy for your conversion. Don’t be dismayed, God works in amazing ways!

  3. Carrie
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Your conversion touches my heart. God bless you for standing up for what you know is true. And welcome HOME! You will STAND TRUE more than ever in the fullness of Truth that is the Catholic Church. God WILL prosper your work more than ever. I will be praying for you. 🙂

  4. Posted April 1, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    I will be praying for you! My husband and I became Catholic in 2008. It is an AMAZING journey and we will be praying for you. My two sons are becoming Catholic this Easter so we can use your prayers for them. God is truly doing miraculous things. I suggest watching a lot of EWTN and http://www.realcatholictv.com to keep up your Catholic education. Heaven is singing!

  5. Posted April 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Wow, people take this stuff too seriously. He’s still a Christian, end of story. Yeah, there may be a few disagreements, but in the larger context he is still from the same religion that you are. Come together people!

    • GG
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

      Not true, Patrick. You don’t know the scriptures if you believe this.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

        Yes, you’re right. I’m sure that is the problem.

      • Psychdoc
        Posted April 5, 2011 at 10:34 am | Permalink

        the Catholic Church preserved the scriptures for all the years before the Protestant “reformation.” The Catholic Church and church fathers decided which books were inspired by God and which weren’t. Some of the early Catholic church fathers were contemporaries of John the Evangelist. The early Christians were Catholic. The dogmas of the Catholic Church have not changed over 2000 years. The same can’t be true of Protestantism.

        However, that said, when it comes to saving babies, it is important that doctrine is put aside and we continue work to SAVE THE BABIES!!! It breaks my heart that there is such bigotry against the Catholic Church that Stand True would lose funding over Bryan coming back to the faith that he was baptized in.

        I would suggest you read Scott Hahn’s book: Rome Sweet Home. Here is a Protestant theologian who explains why the Catholic Church is the one true church.

  6. Beth
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    When I was little I watched my father being carted off to jail for protecting the unborn. He talked about the potential for pro-life work to do more for ecumenism than any other single thing in history. He said that when a Catholic and a Baptist stand shoulder to shoulder in defiance of such a grave evil and with God on our side, they see Jesus in each other. You do not get arrested with someone for a true cause without catching a glimpse of Christ in their hearts.

    In those early days of the pro-life movement, there was perhaps more hope. There was also more hatred between denominations. Pro-life work is a bridge. I believe that this is one of the goods things that God has made come from the evil of abortion. Protestants and Catholics work and pray together.

    This is not a turn. This conversion is simply another step forward in your pilgrimage toward perfection. We all make our journey. Where we progress is when we are listening to God. Where we stumble is when we try to make our own decisions. Anyone who thinks that you should have ignored the voice of Jesus, who lead you to Catholicism, cannot call himself a Christian. Anyone who thinks that the Lord cannot work through different denominations lacks trust in the Holy Spirit.

  7. GG
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Bryan, I am glad that you will continue your fight for human life, but I cannot support your decision to return to the Catholic church. This link shows a list of reasons why on the right had side of the picture. I cannot imagine that one who knew the truth would turn away to go back to such a perversion of scriptural doctrine. My reference would be II Peter 2:20-22. Here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mostholyfamilymonastery.com%2Fthe_bible_and_the_catholic_church.php&h=0377crkzj0KTvv6CGiaWUwWk_Dg I plead with you to examine your decision.

    • Shannon Norvell
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

      I agree with “GG”. I can not support your decision to become Catholic. I think it’s sad to see a man of good honest faith turn toward such lies.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

        Hello to both GG and Shannon! I don’t know if y’all noticed Beth’s comment, but I would encourage you to read it. I would also encourage you to read Bryan’s take on why he’s coming back Home to Catholicism. I’m sure you don’t think he’s an unreasonable man. I pray that you can read both Beth’s comment and Bryan’s own explanation with open hearts.

        God bless you!

      • GG
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

        Elizabeth, I don’t know Shannon, but I believe she and I are probably in agreement about the Catholic Church. We cannot and will not be lukewarm or sentimental about such a move. I know that *I* don’t want to slander Bryan or his work, but his decision is a life and death move in the wrong direction. I can’t speak this statement for Shannon, but it is the way I feel. Bryan has done wonderful works protecting the unborn, but those good works will not account for anything regarding his salvation. He has made a deliberate move to a religion that is overwhelmed with heresy. I am greatly sorry for Bryan. Thank you for your comment.

      • GG
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

        Beth, I was not using prayer as a weapon. I will really pray for Bryan. Bryan, basically what you are saying is that the Holy Spirit cannot impart wisdom to the believer’s mind while he is reading the scriptures (yes, I do believe and can support Sola Scriptura). You are saying that I cannot properly understand the Word of God alone without help from man? I don’t think so.

        • Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

          Beth if that is the case who is right and who is wrong is the Holy Spirit telling the tens of thousands of denominations different things? Are the baptists right? The Lutherans? The Presbyterians? The Pentacostals? They all teach way different things about the same scriptures, who is listening to the Holy Spirit and who is listening to satan?

          If you can support sola scriptora what did the Church do for hundreds of years before the Bible?

      • Beth
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

        Bryan, I certainly did not mean to trivialize your conversion, and I am sorry if that is how you heard it. I am a Catholic and I believe that only the Catholic Church has the fullness of the truth revealed.

        I merely meant to point out that the reason you found your way to the Catholic Church is that you already had a relationship with our Lord. You were listening. It is a progression. It is not ground zero. The same Jesus that has lead your work all these years is the Lord who lead you the Catholic Church. This is not an introduction, it is a deepening. We know that the Lord speaks to and through Christians of all denominations if for no reason other than your story. As a Catholic, you gain an intimate relationship with Our Lord, through the sacraments- the same Lord that you loved and followed as a Protestant. You have been doing His work for Him for years. It does matter what you believe, but what we share with protestants is more than our differences, because what we share is a yearning and a love for Jesus and an awareness that if we let him he will enter and change our lives.

        I am thrilled that you converting! I’d be lying if I pretended to be surprised. I always thought you were on your way to the Catholic Church. It is wonderful. I have some hope that your conversion story will inspire many to learn about our faith.

        I haven’t got a clue where you picked up the idea that I support sola scriptura. I do not dare. FWIW, the Church does have something to say about the disunity between Christians in our Catechism:
        //817 In fact, “in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church – for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame.” The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ’s Body – here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism – do not occur without human sin:

        Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers.

        818 “However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.”//
        http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm
        (If you have not found that page yet, it is a useful one. It is the Catechism in a searchable format. The Catechism is online in a number of places, including the Vatican website, but that one is the most user friendly.)

    • Beth
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

      “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”
      —Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen

      “For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of (our) Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them. What is expressed in the true proverb has happened to them, “The dog returns to its own vomit,” and “A bathed sow returns to wallowing in the mire.”” 2 Peter 2:20-22
      (the passage referenced by GG.)

      I am glad that you are concerned for the souls of brothers and sisters. I hope that that concern translates into prayer that they hear God’s voice. You can trust that the Lord is speaking. You can hope that each who aspires to be Christlike listen. You can speak, and teach, and learn. Do not presume to know what the Lord has spoken to the heart of another. I am curious what the “perversions of scriptural doctrine” you are afraid Catholics are victim to.

      I too hope an expect Bryan to examine, and reexamine his decision. Since he says he did not make the decision lightly, I assume he made it in prayer. I trust the Holy Spirit to lead him rightly.

      • GG
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

        Beth, I am not afraid of the Catholic Church, I am afraid *for* the Catholic Church.

        • Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

          GG let me ask you if you are afraid for the Calvinist Protestants or The Free Will protestants? Under Calvinist you would have Presbyterians, Reformed Baptists and all reformed chruchs – Under free will you would have your Lutherans, Southern Baptists, Calvary Chapels.

          You see these two belief systems both claim to be “biblical” yet one teaches a Jesus that died for everyone and the other teaches a Jesus that only died for some people. One teaches a God who wants for everyone to be saved and created a way for all to be saved. The other teaches a God who picks some to be saved and sends some to hell without a chance to be saved at all.

          The fact is the protestant churches all teach such radically different theologies and once one groups does not like something, they just create another theology.

          There must be a true Church, one that Christ established from the beginning. And if you look back in history before the was even a bible to teach from, there was the Catholic Church.

          If you are concerned for anyone it should be those who just create new churches when they decide they know God better than someone else.

      • Beth
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

        I thought I made that clear.

      • GG
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

        Bryan, what does the Bible say about itself? The Catholic Church was not the first church, and you know that. The first church began shortly after the ascension of Christ to the Father on the Day of Pentecost. As for me, I do not see “free will” anywhere in the scripture. To make a simplistic analogy, it is more like we are children who are allowed to make choices within the confines of our parents’ will. I do not believe that scripture teaches that an unregenerate spirit can “choose” God. I do not believe that we humans have any clue as to whom the Father call, so we are to take the gospel message to all. Your frustration with Protestant churches should not be the basis for returning to Catholicism. These are certainly the last days (prophecy flying at us at lightning speed), and the great falling away has begun. The churchs (all denominations) are filled with false prophets and teachers — FILLED! I do fully believe that if one studies the Word of God without a lot of the other garbage that is out there to “help” you understand it, sticking primarily to books that assist with literal translations of the biblical languages, that one will find the truth through the Holy Spirit. I will pray for you, Bryan.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

        @GG What does the Bible say about Sola Scriptura? The Bible doesn’t teach Sola Scriptura. We regard the Bible as Sacred Scripture, as Christians, right? When did we finally have the collection of these Sacred Scriptures? After members of the early Church determined them to be Sacred. They sorted through so many other books and choose these four Gospels, the Acts, and these letters.

        If you regard the Bible as Sacred Scripture, you are regarding the authority of that early Church and you are therefore supporting tradition.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

        GG The Catholic Church was the first Church, the one established by Christ Himself. If you would actually read history and the church fathers you would see this. You will also need to understand the first few hundred years there was no Bible, so Sola Scriptora is impossible.

        You will also not find “the rapture” in fact that kind of end times teaching is only a couple of hundred years old. You really need to look at history to see that much of what is taught as biblical Christianity today is new theology that did not exist until recently.

      • GG
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

        Bryan, I can see that although you were out of the Catholic Church for a while, you never really left it. It is not good for you to assume I am ignorant, Bryan. In any case, I will close this now and leave you to your choice. I will pray for you. YOU obviously do not know scripture and that’s just a shame. May God have mercy on you.

        • Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

          GG I was in the Catholic Church as a child, never an adult until now. I spent 23 years as a protestant Christian and it is my study of scripture as well as church history that has brought me to this.

          The problem is that when people look at scripture blindly without looking at the history of the Church we just get a bunch of different teachings that have nothing to do with historical, biblical Christianity.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

        It is uncharitable to use prayer as a weapon of rhetoric.

    • Rachel
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

      I find it extraordinary, yet sadly believable, too, that there are those who would revoke their support for the amazing work you do (monetarily, in spirit, etc) because you are becoming Catholic. 🙁 As you yourself say, Bryan, your work and its focus is not changing at all!! Just wow. If I weren’t such a broke college student, I would give lots to Stand True! 😛 As it is, I offer my prayers. <3 Including prayers that those doing the revoking will rethink their decisions and continue to support you.

      Anyway, Bryan already knows I posted this, but for those who have not seen it: http://bryankemper.com/2011/03/30/my-journey-home-to-the-catholic-church-why-i-am-converting-to-catholicism/#comment-7474

      In that comment you will find many links to sites that go into great depth on ALL of the questions, concerns, and objections to Catholicism that you are raising. I ask you to please, if you are truly open and willing to learn more about the Church, and not just misinformation or hearsay, PLEASE go check those links out. (Such as Biblical Evidence for Catholicism, Jesus is Catholic, St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, and more.) I assure you, your questions will be treated in-depth!! Biblically and from the early Church and the Church Fathers, etc. 🙂

      Blessings to all~

    • Joni
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

      LOL! This is an a schismatic group GG. They aren’t in line with Rome. They don’t declare to be in line with Rome. In fact, they detest Rome. They believe Pope Benedict is the anti-Pope. This is what happens when protestants try to explain the Catholic Faith. I’m not trying to be mean here but people might want to pose questions rather than what they think the Catholic Church says.

  8. 1BlkPriest
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Put the naysayers and fair weather friends behind you and rejoice rejoice rejoice in the faith you’ve rediscovered with men of strong shoulders and prominence. You’re always welcome in my rectory!

  9. Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    I just repeat and ask that you consider re-reading his explanation with an open heart. I’m not asking you to be lukewarm. Just like you think I am misguided, I think you have the wrong idea about the Catholic Church.

    Many people who are misinformed about the Catholic Church would do well to listen to Catholic speakers and read texts first-hand rather than hearing from non-Catholics about what they call “heresy.” I firmly believe that the Catholic Church is the Church established by Christ and I’m so excited to welcome Bryan into it!

    • Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

      Whoops, I meant to reply to GG’s comment.

    • Camille
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

      Elizabeth thank you very much for your defense.

    • GG
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

      I believe you mean well, Elizabeth, but I have been studying the Bible for 25 years, and I am very familiar with scripture. I also know about the Catholic religion. I also know that Christ did not establish the Catholic Church…He established the Christian Church with explicit instructions that He was the only intermediary between God and man. He did not re-establish the priesthood but disassembled it. He is appalled by the worship and veneration of His earthly mother, Mary, as well as all the fables that the Catholic Church perpetuates about her. Thank you for your comment and your civil tone.

      • Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

        I just wanted to clear up two misconceptions about the Catholic Church. First, Catholics do believe that Jesus is the only mediator between God and man. Sometimes the terms “mediator” and “intercessor” get confused. We only find salvation through Christ. We do believe it’s OK to ask others to intercede for us (like you ask your friend to pray for you).

        Second, Catholics absolutely do not worship Mary. As a Catholic, I have never ever heard anyone even suggest worshiping Mary. It is just absolutely not done. We would be appalled too.

        I hope that Catholics and Protestants might grow in fellowship and work more to reuniting the Church that Christ established.

      • Robert
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

        “He is appalled by the worship and veneration of His earthly mother, Mary”

        Goodness. We honour her as the earthly vessel that bore God. We honour her as the Mother of God. What is wrong with that? Also, we pray through her; “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus” – sound familiar? – I belief it has very strong Biblical overtones, to put it lightly.

        Bryan is right, Sola Scriptura doesn’t work, for the Bible wasn’t codified until (correct me if I’m wrong) 325AD.

        For you see when you give up on reason you have lost all real insight.

        G’day.

      • Cranky Catholic
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

        By what authority do non-Catholic Christians have in interpreting Scripture correctly?

      • Joni
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

        Again, this isn’t said in a mean manner. GG, you know so little about the Catholic Faith as to give the Holy Family Monestary as an example of what the Catholic Church teaches. Again, they are sedevacantists which means they don’t even believe we have a pope right now.

        Also, if you believe Christ is the only mediator, why would you even pray for anyone? You’ve actually just proven the Catholic position here.

      • Joni
        Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

        dang. It posted before I was ready. As for Mary, here’s a true explanation from people who really know Catholicism…
        http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2006/0609fea1.asp

      • Ellie
        Posted April 2, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

        “I also know about the Catholic religion.”

        With all due respect GG- no, you don’t. Your comments have shown over and over again that you don’t really know or understand Catholic doctrine, but are instead operating under many of the false misconceptions of Catholic doctrine that are so common in today’s society. Please do your research better. And Joni is right, Most Holy Family Monastery is a splinter group that is NOT allied with Rome- I would not rely on their information.

  10. Jason Brown
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    As a friend of mine would say, if it helps you in your walk with God, do it. And if it helps glorify God in any means, do it.

    • GG
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

      Anything is an extremely broad word.

  11. Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I just found out about your work and your conversion. I find it so sad that someone would take away money from your work against the greatest evil on earth, the killing of humans because you finally reach your true faith, your home. I think these people are scared that they too are missing out on the greatest beauty of their time, the Catholic Faith, the one true church! We will support you, as founder of Hair Bows 4 Life, will give back to saving those sweet lives to those who work very hard such as your work and many more. Keep up the good fight. It will get worse since the Devil just lost another one. If Christ died on the cross for His Church, what less can we expect when we follow the one true Church! May Our Blessed Mother and Her Beloved Son, hold you tight, bless you, and give you the courage to fight those whom can’t fight for themselves! The Unborn!

  12. Rite Winger
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I grew up Lutheran, all the while attending a Catholic Elementary School, and am closer to being Pentacostal now. I also grew up a Unionized Liberal Democrat, was a FemiNazi in the 90’s, and voted for Clinton in my first election in 1996. With that being said, I honestly wouldn’t care if you were an Atheist (there ARE non-religious arguments against abortion), if you were against abortion. A point that was made crystal clear to me a few years ago: I was talking to my Über Liberal grandmother on the phone, when, out of the blue, she tells me she just got a subscription to the New York Times. (RED Flag Right THERE.) And, believe it or not, that led to her telling me my mother had the “right” to abort ME! (I was the product of what *I* like to call “High School Hormones”, AFTER Roe V Wade.) This just furthered my belief that registering Republican in 1999 was, in fact, the RIGHT thing to do, after all. Besides, I’d be a hypocrite if someone’s conversion to Catholicism bothered me, seeing as how my favorite novel, of all time, “Acts Of Faith” by Erich Segal, IS half Catholic (the other half being Jewish). Just MY “two cents”… God Bless you for your efforts to give babies the RIGHT TO EXIST!!! 🙂

  13. Posted April 1, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    So much bigatory out there. I bet if Brian and his family were turning Buddhist everyone bagging him here would be patting him on the back.
    Stand True Brian. “Wherever the Catholic sun does shine, There’s music, laughter and good red wine. At least, I’ve always found it so: Benedicamus Domino!”

    • Laura Pardo
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

      Byran, stay strong brother. You know the truth. You know what’s right. We’re praying for you my friend.

  14. Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Good luck to you! Hopefully people will still support your cause, as it is still rooted in Christ.

  15. MBD
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    God bless you a lot! He’ll show and help you in your financial support for your ministry, because you’re asking for his blessing. Keep trusting in him. I think the BEST way to see who are/were your REAL friends is to see who supported you and who supported sectarianism. And to all christians: the catholic view of the abortion issues is the TRUE CHRISTIAN VIEWPOINT. It’s the view the apostles had.

  16. Shannon Norvell
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    The Rapture is most certainly in the Bible!! If we are to believe the Bible, we are to believe the Rapture.

  17. Robert
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Bryan, as I said in Scotland, you have my prayers during this time of returning home. Always remember the words of St Ambrose “Ubi Petrus, Ibi Ecclesia, Ibi Deus” – “Where Peter is, there is the Church, there is God”

  18. Christie
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Welcome Home Bryan! This movement across the Tiber seems to really be gaining momentum! Thank you for all your work for life and now your courageous following of the promptings of the Holy Spirit into the fulness of Truth. “that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. ” John 17. If the Body of Christ is dismembered, its members who have left the Body (even though they are still members of the Body) will be unable to be nourished by the Precious Blood of Christ. The rest of the Body left behind will be left anemic from the wounds caused by the absence of her members. Hopefully one day we will all be feasting at the Eucharistic table together worshiping and adoring the Lamb who was slain for the sins of us all.
    Praised be Jesus and peace be with you!

  19. Ellie
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    I find it both absurdly ridiculous that someone would withhold funding from you because of your conversion. Yes, let’s punish the unborn children because their defender now worships Christ in a way we don’t like. *rolls eyes*

    Honestly, I have to laugh at it, because if I didn’t, I would have to cry.

    • Beth
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

      The devil will take advantage of anything to subvert the Lord’s work.

    • Cranky Catholic
      Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

      I can believe others would not give because of one’s conversion. How do you expect someone to go against their conscience and contribute to a cause that includes a system of beliefs contrary to your own? A pro-life group might be trying to save babies and women’s lives, but what if they’re also wiccans?

      If you’re Catholic, give to a Catholic pro-life group. If you’re not, give to a non-Catholic Christian group. There’s plenty of choices.

  20. Helena Canaris
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    as someone who was born/bred Catholic, and remained steadfastly so all my life, I can only imagine the joy you are experiencing with your own personal epiphany…. I know that my own joy found in defending my faith will pail compared to yours, and all I can say is don’t let let the Negative Nancy’s get you down…, remember WHY you made the decision in the first place, and God will always be there, carrying you in His arms…

    someone recently sent me a link to this book (which I haven’t read myself)
    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/the_bible_and_the_catholic_church.php

    also, another theologian to look at is Christopher West, an Evangelical convert to Catholicism, who now lectures on the “Theology of The Body”

    God Bless you Bryan,
    keep up your holy work…

    • J
      Posted April 3, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

      stay away from the ‘most holy family monastery.’ it’s not a real monastery. it’s two brothers. the dimond brothers. they’re a pair of boneheads. heretics. sedevacantists. they don’t speak for the Church.

  21. RosalindaL
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    God bless you! :0)

  22. Cranky Catholic
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Imagine Bryan has just discovered the awesome flavor of meat and beer for the first time after a lifetime of eating fruits and vegetables. Would you expect him to serve nothing but fruits and vegetables at a party he’s hosting? Heck no!

    He’s going to serve meat and beer, man!

    So it only makes sense that his ministry begin taking on newly discovered flavors.

    • Ellie
      Posted April 2, 2011 at 9:05 am | Permalink

      Catholicism = meat and beer.

      I love it!!! 🙂

  23. Rob
    Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    Bryan,
    As long as Stand True remains true to its beliefs, I wish you well on your new journey.

    BTW, remember that Baptist isn’t protestant!

  24. Concerned in Christ
    Posted April 2, 2011 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    Bryan, It is much much deeper.
    Keep questioning.

  25. Posted April 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Bryan,
    I’m glad to hear of your reversion to the faith. Praise God! I recently started a website called http://www.whyimcatholic.com that showcases Catholic conversion stories, we would love to have you share yours if you feel comfortable. We want to show all the different ways God leads His children to the Catholic Church (I am a revert myself). Shoot me an email if your interested steve@whyimcatholic.com, regardless I’ll be praying for you. I’m sure it takes a lot of courage in your position to take this step. All for God’s greater glory.
    -Steve

  26. Anthony
    Posted April 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Bryan!

    Welcome home to the Catholic Church! I send my regards as a Maronite from Lebanon!

    Anthony

  27. Posted April 2, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Stand True will be fine … Rome has plenty of $$ even after paying off all the lawsuits from the sex abuse cases .

    I still can’t find in my bible where I am to pray to mary / the saints / honor the pope / light candles for the dead ….

    Again as an EX catholic I am sadden that you have decided to go back to a religion of Bondage .. God took me out the the Catholic Church by showing me in scripture and by prayer .. you say God is taking you back .. one of us is wrong …

    Burrito

    • Rachel
      Posted April 3, 2011 at 4:19 am | Permalink

      Wanted to let you know… my mother was raised Catholic, spent a great deal of time Catholic, before becoming an EX Catholic, as well. She says her growth truly blossomed once she started looking at the Bible herself! I’ve always been taught that God will speak to you through the Bible and prayer. If you don’t have your Bible, you have prayer. Thus how Christians got along way-back-when, before the Bible was written. 🙂

      There ARE no intermediaries necessary between man and God if you are pursuing an honest relationship with Him. I tried asking her (my mother) why they pray to Saints and Virgin Mary when I remember the Bible telling me distinctly to not to pray/seek out (the counsel of) Angels or the dead – only God. She says she doesn’t really know either. It’s not in the Bible, but more focus (at least when she was Catholic) was on the priests TELLING you what was in the Bible, and lots of ritual.

      Her, and our family, find an open, one-on-one relationship with God much more appealing, though to each their own. Even if one is wrong and one is right, I think you can BOTH still be at peace. Salvation through Christ, and trying to reach people with his Love. That’s all that matters. God bless.

    • Ellie
      Posted April 3, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

      “Stand True will be fine … Rome has plenty of $$ even after paying off all the lawsuits from the sex abuse cases .”

      Nice. Way to take a cheap shot.

      You stay classy there, Burrito.

      • Rachel
        Posted April 3, 2011 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

        May not be classy, but it’s still factually true. Burrito gets points for honesty, at least. 😉

        And besides, since it may be a reservation of someone contemplating ‘converting’ to the ‘one true church’ (It’s still just another Christian denomination to me, of course), shouldn’t it be addressed, rather than avoided?

  28. Matt Bowman
    Posted April 2, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Totally off topic–so I’m looking at this blog entry on my mobile, and in between the post title and the text there is an ad banner, ads by google, and the ad is, I kid you not: Protect Women’s Choice: Stand with the ACLU, Help Protect the Right to Choose! Take Action!

    • Posted April 2, 2011 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

      Matt for some reason it only happens on mobile phones, it has to do with the phone not wordpress.

    • Matt Bowman
      Posted April 3, 2011 at 9:57 am | Permalink

      Yes I didn’t know if it was me or WordPress.

  29. Rachel
    Posted April 3, 2011 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    You sure seem to have stirred up a hornet’s nest Bryan. It’ll settle back down eventually though.

    I’m still not… entirely sure why this has become such a big deal though. Yes, I myself have some… issues with the way the Catholic church operates. I may not BE a Catholic (ex or otherwise), but I DO read the Bible, have a personal relationship with Jesus (and personal experiences), as well as have an ex-Catholic for a mother so, like all the others, I feel I have enough evidence to support my beliefs in the denomination of my choice (which is… non-denominational. lol. I go to the church of whichever denomination that God leads me, which has been 3 or 4 over the course of my 20-something young years) but that is neither here, nor there, because these arguably smaller differences are NOT worth fighting over!

    Perhaps everyone should take another gander at Romans 14. 🙂 That’s my Go-To chapter for things like this.

    Romans 14:1 starts off with a bang: “Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.”
    ^See that? Without quarreling. Which is what everyone here is doing. It doesn’t matter WHICH side you believe is weak. This arguing is silly.

    Romans 14:5-6:
    “One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be FULLY CONVINCED IN THEIR OWN MINDS. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.”

    and

    Romans 14:13-18:
    “Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is NOT a matter of eating and drinking, but of RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE AND JOY in the HOLY SPIRIT, because ANYONE who serves Christ in this way is PLEASING to God and receives human approval.”

    Emphasis is mine. So, if, Bryan, you are “fully convinced in your own mind” and serving Christ in the manner of PEACE, RIGHTEOUSNESS, and JOY through the Holy Spirit, then amen to you! I am NOT Catholic, but I am still very, very happy when someone finds something that opens a path to the Lord for them.

    And for those who feel the denomination of Catholicism has some wonky things going on, remember when I quoted “Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.”? Do they (Catholics) believe they are sinners? Yes. Do they accept Christ as their savior? Yes.

    As far as I’m concerned, that makes them brothers and sisters. We may disagree over things, but we agree on the fundamentals. In other words, the ABCs of accepting Christ:
    A: Admit you’re a sinner, and need a savior.
    B: Believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord.
    C: Confess your sins, and commit to Him.

    And for those who are TL;DR: Bible says not to quarrel over silly things like this, no matter who’s wrong and who’s right. If they are fully convinced of themselves and are following peace, righteousness, and joy in the spirit, as well as have accepted Jesus as their savior, they’re our brothers and sisters. 🙂 This goes to both groups, those who are Catholic, AND non-Catholic (as long as both groups are Christians, what does it matter?!).

    • Michael
      Posted April 4, 2011 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

      Hi Rachel!

      It just confuses me how you can go from both using your mother’s negative experience to portray the Church as being un-Biblical (“it was more about what the PRIESTS are telling you is in the Bible and ritual”), un-scriptural (“I tried asking her (my mother) why they pray to Saints and Virgin Mary when I remember the Bible telling me distinctly to not to pray/seek out (the counsel of) Angels or the dead – only God. She says she doesn’t really know either. It’s not in the Bible” – and actually, despite your mom not having a knowledge at the time, there is a rich scriptural basis), and then defending Burrito’s statement, which I have a hard time believing that it was said in an attitude of honest Christian charity, to.. well.. this ‘let’s all stop arguing about these silly differences’.

      • Rachel
        Posted April 5, 2011 at 3:10 am | Permalink

        Hey Michael,
        My comment to Burrito about my mother’s negative experience, and the finding that it was unbiblical, was somewhat specific to the time she spent in the Catholic church. Am I wrong in that it is the Church who interprets the Bible in the Catholic church? Their interpretations, from what I understand, trump the every-day church-goer’s decisions (Especially if it comes from the Pope). Thus my “but more focus (at least when she was Catholic) was on the priests TELLING you what was in the Bible”. Also note my parenthesis, where I mention this was when SHE was Catholic. I’m aware there are some churches where this might be different.

        As for the ritual, try looking at it from someone else’s point of view! For example, my church is: “…an eclectic group of artists, entrepreneurs, students, working people and jobless that gathers to make a difference in the community. Some of us dress up (because we like dressing up) and some of us wear jeans and sneakers (because we like to wear jeans and sneakers.) If you are looking for a church that is creative, casual, fun, meets in an art gallery and enjoys good coffee, we might be the place for you.” We still have communion, sure. We have Bible studies. Sunday church. But you must think about how mind-bogglingly different such a solemn, ritual-bound church must seem to people who’s church is so relaxed and casual!

        The un-scriptural point you brought up is a mixing both of my question (why pray to them?), what I remember reading Biblically (Don’t try and talk to angels or the dead, which I’ve always believed would INCLUDE the Saints), and the fact that it was never FULLY explained to my mother (she told me the only thing she was really told that was you’re asking for the Saint’s, or Mary’s, assistance in getting their prayers to God, but why is it needed if God is right there?), thus her lack of knowledge, DESPITE the fact that she and my grandparents were Catholic for years. I’m open to scripture that’s CLEAR that you’re allowed to pray to the Saints if you have it. 🙂 But I ALWAYS have and believe I always WILL direct my prayers to God, because it says that’s who they should go to in the Bible. If I need someone to intercede on my behalf, or I’m feeling doubtful, I pray to Jesus the Son rather than God the Father.

        But like I said, if you can explain the praying to the Saints to me and ESPECIALLY the scripture to back it up, that would be helpful since I’ve never understood the need for it.

        re defending burrito’s statement: it may or may not have been said in Charity. It felt more like a joke, actually. And, sadly, I did snort a little bit at it. And whether in jest or jeer, it does NOT change the fact that what she said was FACTUALLY true (The Catholic Church does indeed still have money despite the lawsuits), that it was a topic that is AVOIDED like the plague, and that it is a topic that doesn’t ever seem to be broached, despite the fact (as I said earlier) that it is probably a very common reservation a non-believer would have.

        My comments about let’s stop arguing is very different than ‘let’s stop discussing’. I believe discussion is a very useful tool for understanding and learning. What is NOT useful is all the anger people seem to genuinely feel over this issue. Your comment to me, for example, does not feel angry. It feels more… contemplative, thoughtful, and more a discussion. But nowhere do you express anger or judgment towards me. THAT is what we need to stop.

        As for the DISCUSSION (as opposed to argument), then let that lead on!

  30. J
    Posted April 3, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    I think that both the Bible Christians and Roman Catholics debating everything under the sun on Bryan’s blog would benefit from a visit to the Bible Christian Society’s free MP3 download page. Have a listen to the talks to see what the Bible REALLY teaches about these topics of disagreement and then come back and discuss.

    http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/download

  31. Kevin Williams
    Posted April 4, 2011 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    VERY good word Rachel.
    The Scripture says “Work out YOUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling.” Philippians 2:12 Jesus said “You search the Scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life, and these are they that speak of me, but you are unwilling to COME TO ME that you may HAVE life.”
    I dont consider myself to be Catholic, Protestant, Calvinist or Armenian. I firmly believe there are no such distinctions in the Kingdom of Heaven but “Christian” or “Not” and on an individual person by person basis on the criterion of being washed in the blood of the Son of God, Jesus who is the Christ.
    The mark of a truly repentant TOWARD God born of the Spirit Christian is a POSTURE of obedience and surrender and a perpetual movement toward Christ. Turning away from our sin and the world and coming under the dominion of the Spirit of God and the precepts of His word.
    I Love the witness that has been left and is still being left to us by such people, the Redeemed of the Lord, whether they be Mother Theresa, Jonathan Edwards, Frank Pavone, CS Lewis, John Newton, Hudsun Taylor, George Mueller or William Wilburforce. Individual Christians who met and KNEW Jesus Christ and followed Him on an individual basis.

  32. Posted April 4, 2011 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Bryan, first of all AHHH COOOOLL! I’m so happy for you, WELCOME HOME! I will be praying for your RCIA journey. This is great.
    Secondly, thank you so much for all of your pro-life work! It is amazing. You have inspired me to work harder for the Pro-life cause. My current project is a wordpress blog. (I’m currently a lay Catholic missionary in Porto Velho, Brazil, but attempting to reach the American public as best I can).
    I know you know that your work doesn’t go unnoticed, but just to re-iterate, I’m inspired. Keep up the great work, and once again, so happy for your decision to come Home!!!

  33. amanda
    Posted April 4, 2011 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Regardless if your Christian or Catholic it should not affect defending life. You don’t have to be either of those to know that everyone has the right to life!

    • Michael
      Posted April 4, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

      Hi Amanda,

      Just to clarify: Christian and Catholic are not mutually exclusive. Contrary to what others who post may think, to be Catholic *is* to be Christian. 🙂

      Peace!

      • Caleb
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:07 am | Permalink

        Wrong. Catholics do not believe in what the Bible says. Mary was not sinless nor did she remain a virgin her entire life. Jesus had (half)brothers and sister. They believe that you can actually speak to the dead and have them pray for you. The Bible is very clear that you cannot do that. They don’t even believe what the Bible says about orginal sin in Genesis. Add all this up and many other fact, you get a lot of fakers and people who go against the word of God.

        Yes, they do stand up for the unborn. So do Mormons. So do Buhdists. So do atheists. So do Scientologists. So do Muslims. So do Jehovah’s Witnesses. So do Hindus. Do anoy of these groups teach the truth? No. So just because the Catholics stand up for the unborn means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

  34. Renee
    Posted April 5, 2011 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    I’m am saddened to see such hostility from those who do not agree with your conversion. Nowhere is someone vilified when they leave the Catholic Church, in fact, they are commended wholeheartedly. Even Catholics wish them well, even if their hearts are heavy with the loss of a fellow Catholic.

    I would actually take all this negativity you see, Bryan, as a good sign.

    Just now, I’ve been attending a mission by a great priest, Fr. Isaac Relyea, and he says every time he gives this mission (on the four Last Things), the devil works overtime attacking him. After the first sermon on Sunday, he had an earful of wrathful things from fellow Catholics, no less! On Sunday night, his car received $4,000 damage from golfball sized hail. He now has a huge crack in his windshield in the shape of a cross.

    God bless, and I will pray for you.
    So, keep it up. If we don’t meet with sacrifice and resistance from the devil, then we must not be going the right way.

  35. Rebecca Obregon
    Posted April 5, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Dear Bryan,

    Welcome Home!!! I was thrilled to hear the blessed news! You’ll have our prayers and our support.

    In Christ,
    Rebecca Obregon

  36. Caleb
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Catholics are not Christians. They are not saved. They do not follow God. The earliest beleivers were Jews. You cannot pray to dead people nor can you ask dead people to pray for you. Mary was not sinless. If she was, she could have died for our sins and not Jesus. Molesting kids is not okay and should not be covered up. You cannot be forgiven by any human being. Confessions do absolutely nothing. You are all wrong if you say that Catholics are Christians. They are not. They do not follow the Bible.

    Bryan, I hope for your sake you do not make your children into Catholics. Loadstone, my friend. Loadstone.

    • Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:04 am | Permalink

      Caleb I did not know your were God and had the power to declare who is not a real Christian? Amazing.

      • Caleb
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:09 am | Permalink

        The Bible is very clear, Bryan. And what Catholics believe goes against the Bible. Jesus told His disciples ‘Anyone who is not against Me is with me.’ This is, the opposite is also true.

        Catholics are against God. Plain and simple. End of story. Get out before you get destroyed to, Bryan.

      • Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:19 am | Permalink

        Caleb Jesus established His Church which is the one, apostolic and Catholic church recited in the Nicene Creed. Most Christians recite and believe in this creed, are they suddenly not Christian?

        Caleb there was NO bible for the first few hundred years, until the Catholic Church canonized it. You can deny this in ignorance all you want but if you study history you will find this is the truth.

        The first few hundred years the only thing people has was the teaching of the Church until the bible was canonized. Then only a few people had a bible as there was not mass printing. So by your logic all of those early Christians were not Christians because they believed what was taught by the Catholic Church.

        I guess until the protestant reformation in the 1500s there were no Christians.

        I dare you to look at history Caleb unless you are afraid of the truth.

        You also might want to attack me before I was Catholic because I was a Calvinist which meant I believed in Predestination, the belief that God chooses who goes to heaven and hell and you have no free will in the matter. Did you know that many modern day Christians believe that?

        Caleb you have a lot of people to condemn to hell because they don’t believe the same way you do.

      • Caleb
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:34 am | Permalink

        The Jews were the first beleivers. The Jews created the first Bible. They are God’s chosen people, not the Catholics. Who wrote every book of the Bible? The Jews. Who was shown the word of God first? The Jews. Through whom is every nation blessed? The Jews.

        Sad fact is that most of the Jews these days don’t believe in the Bible either.

        And you were never a Calvanist because you were never a Christian, Bryan.

        God was the one that canonized the Bible He just happened to use what was, at that time, the most powerful religion in the world. Did Paul or God write most of the New Testament? Well, obviously God did through Paul. Same with the Bible being canonized. Tha Catholics did not do it, they were just an instrument.

        The fact that you believe they canonized it proves you have been brainwashed. You are saying they have the power to change the word of God. And they do not. No one does. The Bible is enerront(sp?).

        I do not deny the fact that for a long time, Catholics were Christians. But not anymore. The church has changed. As a matter of fact, based upon what the Catholics believe, every other church is flawed and going to hell. So by saying the Catholic church is the true church, you, Bryan, are condeming every non-Catholic on the planet. Every single one. So don’t talk to me about throwing people under the bus and condemning them.

  37. GG
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Caleb is telling you the truth, Bryan. The BIBLE tells us who are real Christians. May God grant you repentence and the faith to believe. Truly, the scripture reference I gave you earlier (II Peter 2:20-22 stands against you, but I pray you will turn away from this terrible decision you’ve made before it’s too late. I believe that you know in your heart that part of your decision WAS based on getting support for your cause, because they do, indeed, have the money to cover that. They DO NOT have enough money to pull you from the fire that is now surrounding you. Nobody does.

    • Caleb
      Posted April 7, 2011 at 9:52 am | Permalink

      You mind if I ask for your E-mail address, GG? Would like to have a conversation with you about all this.

  38. GG
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Caleb, do you have a Facebook page? If so, could you give me your FB name, and I’ll add you as a friend. Thanks.

  39. Posted April 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Caleb — Man, you are so all over the map here it’s hard to even respond to you. But I’ll take your first comment as a start.

    You said:

    “Catholics do not believe in what the Bible says.”

    Please name one word in the Bible Catholics do not believe. Also, do you mix different kinds of fabrics together, eat pork, eat shrimp or do any of the other things forbidden under the law in the Old Covenant? If you do, you’ve got some explaining to do.

    “Mary was not sinless . . .”

    Please provide chapter and verse where the Bible indicates that Mary sinned.

    “. . . nor did she remain a virgin her entire life.”

    Again, Scriptural support for this, please. Otherwise you’re just speculating.

    “Jesus had (half)brothers and sister.”

    There is no difference between the word “cousin” and the word “brother” in the languages of Jesus’ time. What’s more, there wasn’t much of a cultural distinction either. You lived in close community with an extended family beyond your nuclear family. It wouldn’t be strange at all for Jesus’ cousins to be referred to as brothers and sisters.

    “They believe that you can actually speak to the dead and have them pray for you. The Bible is very clear that you cannot do that.”

    Where does the Bible say that’s impossible? Don’t you believe in an omnipotent God? Are you saying it would be impossible for Him to make those who are with Him in Heaven aware of the requests of us on earth and to intercede for us?

    Also, the book of Revelation clearly depicts two important examples. One is the martyrs who are asking God why their blood has yet to be avenged. This indicates that the saints in heaven are aware of what goes on on earth and can intercede with God about it. The other is the angels presenting the prayers of the faithful on earth to God in a bowl. This means that the angels know what we pray for here on earth and present those prayers to God in the heavenly liturgy. This all paints a very different picture that what you’re presenting.

    “They don’t even believe what the Bible says about orginal sin in Genesis.”

    Wow, I think all of your comments are baseless, but this one most of all. I can’t imagine what you think Catholics don’t believe about original sin. Please provide citations of magesterially adequate sources that show the Catholic Church teaching anything other than the fact that when Adam sinned, all his posterity was effected by original sin and the other effects of the curse. I can’t wait to see what you come up with there.

    Look, Caleb, with all due respect, you haven’t researched the Catholic faith, you clearly don’t know what she teaches and why and all you’re providing here are shot-from-the-hip proof texts that don’t even address the issues.

    If you’re going to go tossing around anathemas and telling everybody whether they’re going to hell or heaven, you really ought to do your research.

    I await your reply.

    Yours sincerely,

    Matt Yonke

    • Posted April 7, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

      I think now would be a good time to explain that my father was raised Catholic and he taught me pretty much everything about it.

      I will write more soon, but for now I got a few things to do. Further reply forthcoming.

      • GG
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

        Caleb, I need your last name in order to do that. There are several Caleb’s that show up under that search.

      • Caleb
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

        Smay.

    • Caleb
      Posted April 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

      Scratch that.

      I realize now that I am casting my pearls before swine. No more of that. I will pray for all of you that believe in Catholicism.

      • GG
        Posted April 7, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

        Sent the request.

    • Rachel
      Posted April 11, 2011 at 2:21 am | Permalink

      Pardon me if I just jump in for one moment, here. 🙂 Won’t take long, but a verse INSTANTLY sprang to mind as soon as I read this:

      “Please provide chapter and verse where the Bible indicates that Mary sinned.”

      Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.”

      Does it need to be stated more bluntly? If Mary was free of Sin, would Paul have not said ‘For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, except for Mary’? IF the Catholic belief is TRUE and Mary was without sin, then that means that this verse is wrong. And if this verse is wrong, this means THE BIBLE, and by extension, GOD, is wrong.

      Sorry man. That’s a no-go for me. Because either the Bible is wrong, or the Catholic teaching is wrong. I’ll bank on the humans being in error every time.

  40. Julie
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Caleb, You are most likely convincing Bryan that he has made the right move. I know you’re convincing me. Bryan, God bless your ministry. I used to be pro-abortion, am now the VERY proud mother of two children I did not abort only because I didn’t have the funds. You will find immeasurable joy in the Catholic Church. Our Lord never ceases to amaze me. I am happy He is using you as His instrument. I pray that He also will use me.

  41. Posted April 7, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    What is kind of funny here is that Caleb and GG are so ready to condemn me and all Catholics to hell without answering one single point that has been brought up to them. Then they want to connect on facebook so they can gossip about me. WOW

  42. GG
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Bryan…how very sad. You actually think gossiping will solve a thing? We might want to be sure we’re both on the same page, and then we will pray for you. The reason I haven’t been active is because there is no reasoning with Catholics. I’ve talked to many on FB, and they are set in their ways and have no intention of listening or thinking outside the Catholic box. If you sincerely think we’d be laughin or gossiping about your eternal condition, then you are sadly not even the man I thought you were. P.S. We could not condemn anyone to hell. That is the work of Jesus Christ.

    • Posted April 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

      GG what is sad is you don’t even listen to your own words. Caleb has made it clear that I am not a Christian according to him and that I never was. You have made it clear that you think I need to change before it is too late. You are both playing God and casting judgement on my soul.

      You can use all the clever little sayings you want or say there is no reasoning all you want. I have still yet to hear anyone tell me how Catholics, like my self don’t believe the Bible. I believe it 100%.

      I have yet to hear either of you explain how we had any Christians before the Bible was canonized by the Catholic Church? Caleb can say they did not all he wants, but unfortunately he cannot change history.

      So for the first several hundred years when all there was, was Church teaching and all the doctrines of the Catholic Church were in place as they are today there must have been no Christians according to both of you.

      Then you accuse me of joining the Catholic Church for money? Excuse me I lost a lot of money by doing this. I lost friends, money and have been subjected to hate from people I thought loved me.

      I have allowed you two to rant and rave on this site for long enough, if the hatred continues I will ban you both from this site so no one has to hear you two cast your judgements on us.

      I love Jesus. I love His Word, your ignorance will not change my heart.

  43. Julie
    Posted April 7, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know how many times GG and Caleb are going to give us Catholics the finger before they take leave, but God bless you anyway GG and Caleb. Bryan, As you were aware, you’ll get this a lot, and as you also know, they hated Him first. I extend love and friendship to you, GG and Caleb, and I rejoice with Bryan.

  44. Posted April 7, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    I have now marked Caleb and GG as spammers so we don’t have to listen to them anymore.

  45. Julie
    Posted April 8, 2011 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    We Catholics are in the interesting position of having people who call themselves Christian throw vicious, hateful and untrue comments at us sometimes.

  46. UltraMontane
    Posted March 2, 2012 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    “No one can have God as Father who does not have the Church as Mother” -St. Cyprian

    But maybe better a passionate evangelical then a lukewarm catholic. Truth is important, but maybe the Protestant reformation allowed those who would never consider the church Christ established, to at least know Christ and truth in a form more palatable to them. Catholicism is true, but to me it seems like for those not satisfied with an unexamined faith, the intellectual depth required to appreciate what at surface level may seem even arrogant and ridiculous, may not be the privilege of the masses. All heresies are simplifications (in the words of Hillaire Belloc), and there in lies there major appeal. Defending Catholicism is a difficult proposition since it does not lend itself to simplistic explanations, but this should not be confused with meaning its false and man-made. I cannot even comprehend how those that truly understand it can ever leave her, how they can stop themselves from loving the church passionately once they really know what it is. Ofcourse, it is the rare catholic who truly appreciates the richest treasure in the world. Fortunate is the man who sincerely believes its true.

    Ofcourse, the point is we have a common enemy here, there is a time to put away doctrinal differences and unite for a higher purpose. If a protestant honestly believes his version is true, he is not culpable. Debate regarding truth should not make us enemies, and we should not forget the larger picture: we have much more in common than we have differences, and we have much more in common then we will with the increasingly hostile secular world.

    “Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.” -Blaise Pascal

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