This is the generation that will abolish abortion

My two-hour flight sitting next to the Republican US Senator who made the mistake of telling me he is pro-choice.

Yesterday I was on such a high as I left Washington, DC, having been part of a huge rally and speaking on a panel that included some of the nation’s biggest pro-life leaders, several US Congressmen and Senator Ted Cruz. It was an amazing day of pro-life unity as we all stood in support of our lawsuit against the Obamacare HHS Mandate.

When I first got on the plane, a woman stopped traffic in the aisle when she saw my “I am the generation that will abolish abortion” t-shirt and tried to debate me. Predictably, she used the age-old “coat hanger” argument to try and justify killing babies. It is almost an embarrassment in my opinion as that is tantamount to saying we need to continue to legalize homicide using guns to make sure people don’t use knives to commit homicide.

I quickly wrote about the conversation and posted it to Facebook before they told us to turn our phones to airplane mode. I was ready to just sit and watch the news but my monitor was broken, now I know why.

I began to talk to the man sitting across the aisle from me and was very intrigued by him at first. I noticed that the flight attendant knew who he was and made a comment about liking him even if he was a Republican. He was wearing a Naval jacket and was noticeably disabled.

He introduced himself, Mark Kirk, US Senator for the state of Illinois. This was the Republican Senator who took President Obama’s seat. He told me about his service in the Navy and I told him my son wants to be in the Coast Guard. He talked about how important the human trafficking issue is to him and how he has vowed to fight it.

I proceeded to give him my testimony of being a former drug addict and explained how I was involved in the occult and came to Christ in 1987. I shared with him how important God is to me and then told him about my work with Stand True and Priests for Life.

The conversation was going well, I was showing him pictures of my kids and he shared how he wished he had a daughter to spoil. Then I asked him a single question: how do you vote on pro-life issues? He smiled and said he voted on the opposite side as me.

I first asked him how he could justify saying that he wants to protect young children from being trafficked but then vote to allow killing them in their mother’s womb. I explained to him that there is no difference in the humanity of a child in the womb and a child being trafficked. I went through some basic scientific facts and explained that whether someone was a Zygote, Embryo, Fetus, Infant, Toddler, Teenager or an Adult; that person is always a human being and deserves protection.

He tried to say he was just being wise because he knows how liberal politics are in Illinois and he needed to keep his seat. He said it was very tricky, sort of like threading a needle. He kept talking about politics and how his seat will be the most targeted Republican seat in the next election.

So I asked him if keeping that seat was more important to him than doing what is right? I asked if he would be willing to lose it if he could end child trafficking and he said no. He talked about how important serving his country was to him and I told him serving God is more important.

I point blank asked him which came first to him, God or country? He said country.

I explained to him that nothing can come before God and that I would give up everything I had including my life to be able to see an end to abortion.

He then tried to say that he felt it was important for people to keep their liberties. I asked how then can he justify killing almost 3,500 people every day, what about their liberties? He talked about how some people disagree with me and we cannot change what has already been done. I then asked him about the Dred Scott decision and explained that many people thought it was ok to own black people as property. I told him just as we had to undo Dred Scott we must undo Roe vs. Wade.

The flight was ending and we had to prepare for landing. I was thinking about the contrast between Senator Ted Cruz who I had spoken with earlier that day and respect so highly and this Senator for whom I have lost all respect.

As I stood up to get my bag and get off the flight I turned back to Senator Kirk and pleaded with him one more time to do the right thing and vote for life and he said he has to vote the other way. I told him that it is never too late to change and that standing for life is paramount. He smiled and I just begged him one more time to put God first and stand for life.

I have not been able to stop thinking about this since last night, what an amazing position of power this man has and he is using it to destroy human life because he wants to keep that power. He used the example of threading a needle; maybe he needs to read Matthew 19:24 “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

I will be praying for Senator Kirk and praying for more Christians to be put in his path with the courage to be a light and share the truth with him.

Bryan Kemper

81 Comments

  1. Eugene Vigil
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Excellent blog Bryan and thank you for not shying away from letting the truth.

  2. Alexander Vernon
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Good that he talked to you…well I guess he should, he’s a Senator, and you had him stuck. But he did engage you in the conversation. That’s a positive, isn’t it?

  3. Posted May 9, 2014 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Heartbreaking read, the conversation must have been more so.

  4. Posted May 9, 2014 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Dr. King, I have listened to you speak with Glenn Beck and found you to kind and articulate. . I love how you have approached abortion..the same way. Keep up the crusade..you rock!

  5. Karen Grube
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    We need to remind Senator Kirk that the Republican Party Platform is Pro-life, and that if he wants votes and especially support from Conservatives or Republicans, he needs to revisit this issue and change his mind . . . NOW. Also, show him how the tide is changing against abortion, and that more people than ever are voting for laws within their states to limit abortion. Personally, I will donate to anyone else in his state but this guy who seems to think electability is more important than principle and morality.

    • Thomas G Johnson
      Posted May 10, 2014 at 7:58 am | Permalink

      Unfortunately by the time 2016 rolls around the “country club” Republicans may shrug off their pro-life and pro-1M+1W marriage vows in favor of erecting a bigger tent. I hear the Nevada GOP is trying to write “social conservatism” out of their platform. Micro-quakes usually precede “the big ones”. Keep Psalm 11 in mind and never consider that the GOP is the foundation on which believers in Christ may rely. “All men are but a breath …”

      • vaffangool
        Posted October 5, 2014 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

        It’s so inconvenient that homophobia, misogyny, and racism are falling out of fashion. The socially-conservative underclass, depleted by the relentless march of opportunity and education, will eventually face an existential decision: give in to marginalisation, or replenish their number by incentivising immigration from the world’s less-sophisticated regions.

        As subsequent generations assimilate and grow in sophistication, you will have to keep the gates open for more and more immigrants–you might as well embrace them now, so the exploitation isn’t so blatant down the line.

    • Posted May 10, 2014 at 10:58 am | Permalink

      While I understand your comment completely, I despise the two party system. I very much respect the individual who refuses to tow the party line on a position s/he finds morally repugnant or simply disagrees with. A democrat who I very much respected, Governor Carey of Pennsylvania, was Pro-life. If one looks at the democratic platform in its whole, it makes total sense for them to have a pro-life plank…BUT NO. There’s this huge glaring inconsistency. The party of the people, killing the youngest of its constituents. Wow!

      • Michelle
        Posted May 10, 2014 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

        Actually, it makes perfect sense in Democrat platform to be pro-killing babies. There is absolutely no example I can think of in the Democrat party (“part of the people”) in which the people are benefited or helped. Welfare destroys families and tells people they are worthless and too incompetent to do anything that would help them thrive. Liberal economic policies only benefit the liberals that work for the government (i.e. the ones creating the policies), not the regular people. Can you think of one instance of liberal/Democrat policy that helps people?

      • Posted May 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

        Of course you meant Casey. We now have his son as a Pennsylvania Senator. He also says he is pro life but his votes and actions don’t match his words. Politics is a dirty science.

      • Posted May 14, 2014 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

        The consistent life ethic has more matches in the Democratic platform than in the Republican. So you are right, Cindy, just as Gov. Casey said in his book Fighting for Life, support of abortion is an aberration in the Democratic party. That is why Democrats for Life of America (www.democratsforlife.org) fights to keep a voice against abortion and in support of other life issues in the party. Surveys show that 22M people in America are pro-life Democrats. Please help us reach them all so we have the strength to reform our party.

  6. Diane Van Handel
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Awesome post! Thank you for standing your ground! I will pray for him also! You used your time wisely speaking to him! Bless you!

  7. Heidi
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    You spoke the truth and moved on. Only the Holy Spirit can work on his heart!

  8. Carina
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know this author and it’s the only blog entry I’ve read so far, but I’m thankful for you and encouraged by you!

  9. Dennis Perry
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Excellent article and good on you for standing your convictions. Very interesting to read that Sen. Kirk puts country and his own office ahead of God. He is doomed to failure. I don’t know what his financial conditions are, but he is certainly rich in power and he puts those riches ahead of God and morality. I guess his stroke did not serve as a wake-up call to repentance for him.

  10. vanessa knutsen
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Good for you!

    Illinois politics is a snakepit. Should one give up their soul (so to speak…at least one’s morals) in order to keep the seat? But if you don’t do good, why bother holding the seat???

    He will have serious things to think about…and Illinois politics is treacherous. He is not protected by his fashionable beliefs.

  11. Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    “I point blank asked him which came first to him, God or country? He said country.”

    Good for Mr. Kirk to realize that he represents everyone in his district, not just Christians.

    • Mike
      Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

      Christians are not the only people who oppose killing children.

    • Lee
      Posted May 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

      God is also the God of Islam, Judaism and other religions, and I am sure they are in Senator Kirk’s district.

      Being loyal to a country is one thing – putting a country before God – not so good.

    • knight
      Posted May 9, 2014 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

      Yes everyone except the poor little babies who never get born because of his stance. Shish!

    • Bob
      Posted May 9, 2014 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

      He clearly does not represent the posterity of his district. The Constitution was designed for us and “our posterity.” By protecting abortionists and legal murder is in no way doing the most good. Also, it’s a misnomer to think that only Christians find abortion to be abhorrent.

      • Umm
        Posted May 10, 2014 at 7:42 am | Permalink

        Your use of “misnomer” is odd, and I am unclear on your meaning. The Christians have been misnamed?

        • Michelle
          Posted May 10, 2014 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

          One definition of misnomer is a misapplied designation. So, from that definition, it would become clear that the statement you are questioning would be referring to the incorrect belief that only Christians appose abortion, or the misapplied designation that pro-life is only associated with Christians. If there’s anything else you are unclear on, let me know and I’ll try my best to help you.

    • Diane Armato
      Posted May 9, 2014 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

      God is the God of all, not just Christians.

      • Katrina Bowser
        Posted May 10, 2014 at 12:30 am | Permalink

        John 14:6 No one comes to the Father (God) except through me (Christ).

  12. Bonnie Acosta
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for taking the time to speak to this poor lost soul. We will pray for his eyes to be opened, that god will soften his heart and drag him to Himself, show him that if he will put God first that all that is important will follow, and perhaps this information will help voters to choose someone else to fill that seat, someone who DOES follow God!

  13. rick ramsey
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Kemper, Are you for or against the death penalty?

    • Posted May 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

      Against

      • Anon
        Posted May 13, 2014 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

        That’s funny, because you said “the death penalty is a different issue” at a pro-life college leadership conference. Have your views changed?

        • Posted May 13, 2014 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

          What does me being against it have to do with it being a different issue?

          • Anon
            Posted May 14, 2014 at 8:32 am | Permalink

            You said that it was a different issue and that the lives of those convicted of heinous crimes were worth less than innocent, unborn children. All life is priceless and in modern society in the United States there is no room for capital punishment or abortion or euthanasia, etc. I just ask consistency from those that call themselves pro-life.

          • Posted May 14, 2014 at 10:14 am | Permalink

            I have NEVER said anyone is worth less, that would never come out of my mouth. I have however said that the Death Penalty is not the same as abortion because the child being killed is innocent of any crime. Both are of equal value as humans but there is difference between capital punishment and abortion. I am opposed to the death penalty myself.

          • Posted May 14, 2014 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

            Children, especially the unborn, set the standard for innocence. If it’s legal to kill the unborn, then nobody is safe.

  14. Anonymous
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    I am pro- life. I don’t get why they want to justify murder. I especially hate it when Christians say stuff like ” I can see why they did it”. They are basically just ignoring the commandment in the BIBLE! ” thou shalt not murder” I can see that it is a situation that needs to be handled right. As much as I want to, I can’t just go up to someone and scream at them for getting an abortion, but it is a problem needing to be dealt with. I also think that if you can’t take care of a child, put it up for adoption. And instead of putting all that money saved for an abortion towards well , an abortion, why not put it towards something like a children’s home. Do something right for once.
    Pro-life Christian.

  15. Ben Burke
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    He’s a RINO (Republican In Name Only). He’s actually SCUM (Satan’s Comrade & Useless Man). When any man values his position above human life, he is undeserving of office. I pray for him also, but I pray God will remove him from office soon.

  16. Susie Swenson
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    He will think about what you said… the Holy Spirit will work on him, whether or not he will admit it.

  17. Nathan
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for standing for God, standingyour ground, and standing for what is right. Your conversation may have been disappointing today, but it may be the building block that more conversations in the future for Mr. Kirk will cause to help him change his stance.

  18. Jordan R
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    If keeping power is more important then doing what is right I DO NOT want him anywhere close to DC!
    This country is is such disarray because of people in power like Mr. Kirk! I vote for people who are going to do what is right (God follower) and anyone who says one thing but does another to stay in power CANNOT be trusted wih such power and responsability!

  19. bois123
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Senator Kirk will lose his seat not because more Democrats will vote for his opponent, but because Republicans will not vote for his RINO compromises. I will continue to pray for him.

  20. ptj
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m with the senator.

  21. pete
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    So you’re an ethical vegan then?

  22. Posted May 9, 2014 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for standing up for Pro-life Bryan. I am so sorry for Senator Kirk. None of us know when God will call us, he may have a very short time to change his mind and save his soul which he evidently has forgotten he has to account for. God bless you Bryan Kemper. Joan Diaz

  23. Stacey
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    I am a conservative republican and I am 100% pro life. But I feel the need to stand up for Senator Kirk. First, consider that when he was elected he took a democratic seat and he is from a more liberal state. His election is, overall, a win for conservatives even if he is a more liberal republican. Roe v Wade, while a very important issue, is only ONE issue. He is in Washington to work on hundreds of issues. And ultimately he is in Washington to represent the people of Illinois, and in representing their opinions, in keeping his campaign promises to them he will keep his job. Too many senators and congressmen go to Washington to push their own opinions and they forget all about the campaign promises that got them elected. I think his honesty should be commended as should his dedication to the ideals of his constituents even though I believe his constituents are wrong.

  24. Mark Wolf
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Christopher Buxton, human beings are created equal, inherently valuable as human beings and deserving of human rights, regardless of their size, their age, their skin color, their religious creed, where they are, their level of development. It’s in our Declaration of Independence, the founding document of our country. If you have a problem with Christians because they value all human beings, tell me about your religious belief, its discrimination against some human beings based on their attributes, and its basis for doing so. So far, I can imagine that it is very attractive.

  25. Mark Wolf
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    correction: I can’t imagine that it is very attractive.

  26. Posted May 9, 2014 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    He who denies me befoe men, him shall I deny before my Father in Heaven.

  27. Rosemary Gremillion
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Bryan, you sound as though you are for real. So answer one simple question for me: Roe v. Wade was passed 41 years ago, and no lawmaker, no wealthy lobbyist or pro-life genius has found a way to overturn this stupid law. Do all pro-lifers love guns? Because if they do, I think that’s a contradiction in terms. What’s going on with the pro-life lawmakers in Washington? They can’t overturn Roe v. Wade after 41 years? I find that unsettling. Do you have an answer for me on that?

    • Posted May 9, 2014 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

      If I had the perfect answer, It would be overturned. I will however fight until it is and I do believe that day is coming.

    • Glenn
      Posted May 10, 2014 at 10:17 am | Permalink

      How is being “pro-life” and “loving” guns a contradiction? I detect a definite prejudice against gun owners in that statement. I bet you know a lot of people that you think are pretty decent people and I bet some of them unbeknownst to you are gun owners. If you were to find out they owned guns would it change how you feel about them even though nothing else about them had changed? I own guns, several in fact but I don’t “love” my guns, they are simply tools like my knives, hammers, saws, screwdrivers, etc. Any and all of those tools can and have been used to take human life. One of the preferred tools of mass murders in the late 18th and early 19th centuries when there were NO restrictions on gun ownership was the axe. In fact axe murders became such an event they even coined the term “axe murderer”. If someone has it in their mind and heart to take a life or multiple lives they will find a way. A gun doesn’t make someone a murderer, lack of respect for human life makes them a murderer.

      One last parting thought, I am the youngest of 4, when my mother gave birth to #3, my sister, she had a very difficult time. When she became pregnant with me several years later ( I was an “accident” ) due to the previous difficulties and her age the family doctor recommended she abort the pregnancy, she chose not to. There are a lot of people who are glad she made the choice she did, not least of all me. All in all it’s been a pretty good life and I’m very glad I got to live it.

  28. Darrellb
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    You did make one mistake though. You said, “I told him just as we had to undo Dred Scott we must undo Roe vs. Wade. ” Dred Scott never was overturned and Roe vs Wade doesn’t need to overturned. Slavery was ended by and amendment to the Constitution and abortion can be ended the same way. The Supreme Court will never overturn Roe but we can still end abortion.

    Dred Scott remains a decision of the court to this day, but the Constitution trumps the court.

    • Daniel Cox
      Posted May 10, 2014 at 12:11 am | Permalink

      Although it was superseded by constitutional amendment, that is in fact an “overturning.” Additionally, numerous cases since then have recognized its invalidity as legal precedent. This in fact makes the likelihood of reversal even stronger, though I would prefer a constitutional amendment banning abortion at every stage or purpose.

      “Justice John Marshall Harlan was the lone dissenting vote in the 1896 Supreme Court Plessy v. Ferguson, which legalized racial segregation and created the concept of “separate but equal”. In his dissent, Harlan wrote that the majority’s opinion would “prove to be quite as pernicious as the decision made by this tribunal in the Dred Scott case.”[29]

      Charles Evans Hughes, writing in 1927 on the Supreme Court’s history, described Dred Scott v. Sandford as a “self-inflicted wound” from which the court would not recover for over a decade.[30][31]

      In a memo to Justice Robert H. Jackson in 1952 (for whom he was clerking at the time) on the subject of Brown v. Board of Education, future Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote that “Scott v. Sandford was the result of Taney’s effort to protect slaveholders from legislative interference.”[32]

      Justice Antonin Scalia made the comparison between Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992) and Dred Scott in an effort to see Roe v. Wade overturned:

      [D]red Scott…rested upon the concept of “substantive due process” that the Court praises and employs today. Indeed, Dred Scott was very possibly the first application of substantive due process in the Supreme Court, the original precedent for…Roe v. Wade.[33]

      Scalia noted that the Dred Scott decision, written and championed by Roger B. Taney, left the justice’s reputation irrevocably tarnished. Taney, while attempting to end the disruptive question of the future of slavery, wrote a decision that aggravated sectional tensions and was considered to contribute to the American Civil War.[34]
      -Wikipedia

  29. Robert
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    Yes, good for him. Everyone is not a Christian and religion should stay out of politics!

    • Kmbold
      Posted May 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

      “(R)eligion should stay out of politics”? Religion doesn’t enter into politics. PEOPLE with or without religious beliefs enter into politics. What do you prefer, politicians who are religious-minded or politicians who are not religious-minded? (I refer to the Judeo-Christian ethos, not Islamic or pagan religions.) Think about what religion has meant to our political establishments. It is only when we twist or deliberately negate our nation’s cultural and moral history that we run amok.

    • Michelle
      Posted May 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

      So, murder is one of the ten commandments. So, I assume that you are for legalizing murder in any form? If you get offended by someone, you should be allowed to just kill them? Or, do you think we should include religion in that ONE law?

  30. Valerie
    Posted May 9, 2014 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Better to have a pro-choice Democrat in that seat than this sell-out. At least people know what they are getting that way. This guy justifies why I will NEVER give money to the Republican party.

    • JR
      Posted May 13, 2014 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

      Stacey: I agree with your comments, to a point. Frankly, I would trade every other “conservative” issue that Kirk supports just to have him vote pro-life. I don’t see it happening. What needs to be pointed out, however, is that trading Kirk for Obama as senator was trading a wishy-washy baby killer for a dyed-in-the-wool radical baby killer. I think Mark Kirk is an honest, if misguided man, and needs our prayers. For better or for worse, he is our senator.

  31. Jon
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    The way he answered your questions alarms me, but all-in-all, we do still need that seat in the senate, and he gains votes by being “pro-choice.” He is a politician, and a lot of politicians are not afraid to compromise their true beliefs to stay in office. Do I respect Mr. Kirk less because of this conversation, maybe, but do I think he makes a valid point, yes. If I were to ever hold office, there is no way I would vote against my beliefs, but that is because I prioritize God first, before myself. Not a lot of politicians do, even on the Right side.

  32. HCL
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 4:28 am | Permalink

    Good for him for choosing country over God. You can choose to think your beliefs are the only correct ones but the truth is, we are all citizens of this country. We are not all Bible-thumping believers in the Christian God.

  33. Christa Nice
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 6:39 am | Permalink

    Politicians like Mark Kirk disturb me. Of course I wish he were Pro-life, but even more, I wish he would pick a stance based on his core beliefs and stick to it. He basically told you he’d vote however he thought would help him keep his seat. On the human trafficking issue: would he be for it if the powers that be were for it, not against it? As for serving God or country, of you believe in God and believe He is wiser than us , it should follow that anything God wants should be better than anything we could plan, and we should be afraid to defy Him! Did Mark Kirk say he believed in God or was born again?

  34. cary bogue
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    With the benefit not being on the spot as you, I would have said the same thing you did, Bryan. What is surprising but sad, is two of the things he said. He choose Politics over God and stopping Human Trafficking under the guise of Serving. He sounds like a man more interested in the notoriety and power than doing the right thing, as you said so well. If he is a Christian God will convict his heart. If he is not we can only pray for his soul. I pray this article will inspire other conservatives to challenge him for his seat. I will share it.

  35. Helena
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    I live in Illinois (in Cook County, no less), and I have to say that Mark Kirk does not represent the beliefs of the residents of Illinois; he represents the people of Chicago. If you look at the voting records broken down by County, Illinois is red state, with a big blue patch on Chicago, and small blue patches at Springfield & at each college town. Unfortunately, there are enough people in those spots to drag the whole state into being blue. There is a reason that we joke that we live in the state of Chicago. There are many, MANY pro-life, very conservative people here, and I am one of them. Maybe some day our politicians will represent us too. There is also a very good reason that we have an exodus of people to other states. A recent study showed that a full 50% of Illinoisans would leave the state if they could, and I am one of them.

  36. Matt
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Stacey,

    You’re 100% right.

    Forming an entire about political opinion about someone after one conversation on a plane is myopic at best. It’s better to have a moderate Republican in that seat than a liberal D, even for Pro-lifers. Politics is the real world, and you have to be realistic about your alternatives.

    Ted Cruz would never win in that district. In fact, he’s become so polarizing that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a one term Senator in Texas. Stand strong in your beliefs, but realize that armchair criticizing of ELECTED officials comes cheap.

  37. Bob Pawson
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    A Divine Appointment: For BOTH of you. Perhaps Senator Kirk won’t be able to ‘stop thinking’ about this meeting either. 1 Corinthians 3:6-7 & Isaiah 55:11 <

  38. Posted May 10, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    I admire you for having this conversation, I don’t know that I would be able to do it. I understand where Kirk is coming from, though I think he’s wrong. It’s difficult to be in politics and I can’t IMAGINE being in politics in Illinois! All politicians make trade-offs and it is naive to think they don’t. However, we have representatives — rather than simply voting on every issue. Sometimes that means a rep. making a judgment about what’s right or wrong, rather than simply voting for what most people in the district want. Perhaps your talk got through to him and he will think differently about some issues in the future. All you can do is make your case, and you did!

  39. radar
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Abortion is our own genocide.

  40. Anna
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    “I asked if he would be willing to lose it if he could end child trafficking and he said no.”

    I read your post, but did not read through all of the comments, so apologies if this has been addressed already.

    Am I understanding correctly, that Sen. Kirk said that if the cost to end his sincerest priority, (Child Trafficking) was for him to lose his Senate seat, that he would NOT pay it?!

    I pray I have misunderstood, but if I have not – then This is a Very Large part of how our Nation has lost it’s way. Our “representatives” no longer seek to represent anything except their OWN best interests. Power is what they worship.

  41. Kevin Aldrich
    Posted May 10, 2014 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    He’s my senator and I know he’s pro-abortion and I am disgusted with him for that. But I can’t believe he was so blatant is saying he voted pro-abortion just for political expediency. I can’t believe he actually said he put country before God. He may well think those things but I can’t believe he’d say them, no less to a stranger.

    • Posted May 10, 2014 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

      Kevin, He said them. I was as shocked as you are but he said them.

    • vaffangool
      Posted October 5, 2014 at 5:12 am | Permalink

      @Kevin Aldrich:

      I can’t believe he actually said he put country before God. He may well think those things but I can’t believe he’d say them, no less to a stranger.

      Country is real. God is not.

  42. Posted May 10, 2014 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    While Mark Kirk’s response whether a Republican or not is sad. What’s sadder to me is that it is a surprise to anyone. I knew who Mark Kirk was when I ran against him in 2010 and the Republican Party spent nearly a quarter of a Million Dollars to keep a REAL PRO-LIFE candidate out of the race – me…

  43. BeeKaay
    Posted May 11, 2014 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    “I asked if he would be willing to lose it (his seat in Congress) if he could end child trafficking and he said no.”

    He’s a typical leftist politician, thinking only of himself and not of others. Just a typical power-hungry politician. That’s the ONLY type leftists are.

  44. kyle
    Posted May 11, 2014 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    This doesn’t surprise me. It seems most pro-life politicians use the dependent and abortion as a rallying cry for passionate supporters. If roe vs wade was over turned than they would lose all those supporters who are interested in social justice issues over economic and constitutional issues.

    I also hold the belief that criminalization of abortion isn’t the end of abortion. Rather that the solution is one that comes from God being in people’s lives rather than people using the very undivine law to enforce others to do the right thing.

  45. Joe
    Posted May 12, 2014 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    If he votes with the democrats just to get elected, why doesn’t he just run as a democrat?
    That would be my question to him.

  46. Theresa
    Posted May 13, 2014 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    I pray that you gave him serious food for thought. If I lived in his district, I would not vote for him. It takes a true man to stand up for his beliefs, even it means going against the “popular” belief.

  47. Jon White
    Posted May 13, 2014 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    The Senator is willing to allow children to be killed so he can keep his Senate seat just as Pontius Pilate was willing to have Jesus killed so he could keep his governorship. There is nothing new under the sun. +

  48. JanetJoyVic
    Posted May 14, 2014 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Bryan for standing up for the very small. God Bless you. I pray that Sen Kirk has a conversion of the heart. All who reads this please pray with me;

    Come Holy Spirit, come through the powerful intercession of the Immaculate Heart of the most Glorious Mother – Mary, your Belovede Bride, to change the heart of Senator Kirk and all of our Nation’s leaders that they may see the value of every child’s life, even the very smallest ones. We ask this through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

  49. JanetJoyVic
    Posted May 14, 2014 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    So true Jon White, so true – thank you for this analogy.

  50. Posted May 14, 2014 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Henry Hyde used to tell new Congressmen that they needed to know what issues they would sacrifice their seat in Congress for. Has Senator Kirk discovered that piece of self-knowledge yet?

  51. vaffangool
    Posted October 5, 2014 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    “I went through some basic scientific facts and explained that whether someone was a Zygote, Embryo, Fetus, Infant, Toddler, Teenager or an Adult; that person is always a human being and deserves protection.”

    No, you harangued him with pseudoscience. Sentience is a physical impossibility before the 26th week of gestation, as there brain’s neurons are not yet linked. Rudimentary brain waves indicating consciousness are not expressed before the sixth month of pregnancy; until such time, the fetus cannot experience pain or possess any degree of consciousness.

    Protecting freedom is a noble pursuit and a rational aspiration. There is no such thing as a soul, and saving them is not the business of our elected representatives–taxpayers should not be expected to finance such juvenile fantasies.

  52. Posted March 31, 2016 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Bryan, you may not see this comment, but in the same way you may not see how much of a ‘take’ (rather than a mis-take) the Senator might have made in speaking to you. In praying for him, which I am fair to note you do get, let it be that the Lord, who may have guided his tongue to be honest, will now guide it and all of him to be truthful. God bless!

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