This is the generation that will abolish abortion

Proof that Texas in July is actually raising money for Sexetc.org / refuting the lies

If you don’t want to join the boycott (http://bryankemper.com/2011/05/04/self-pro-claimed-christian-band-confirms-their-support-for-pro-abortion-web-site-sexetc-org/ ) that is fine, but truth is important, this is the direct press release from Take Action in which you will see 10% of ticket sales go to Sexetc.org. With over 30 shows and at least 500 kids per show (some of the venues hold thousands) and about $20 per ticket that equals at least $30,000 raised. Sexetc.org did not have to pay to be on this tour, they are being paid.

Celebrating its tenth anniversary of raising funds and awareness to assorted non-profit organizations, Sub City (Hopeless Records’ non-profit organization which has raised more than two million dollars for charity), is pleased to announce the 2011 edition of TAKE ACTION TOUR. This year’s much-lauded beneficiary is SEX, ETC., the Teen-to-Teen Sexuality Education Project of Answer, a national organization dedicated to providing and promoting comprehensive sexuality education to young people and the adults who teach them. “Sex is a hot topic amongst Take Action bands and fans but rarely communicated in a honest and accurate way,” says Louis Posen, Hopeless Records president. “Either don’t do it or do it right!”

Presented by Hot Topic, the tour will feature celebrated indie rock co-headliners SILVERSTEIN and BAYSIDE, along with POLAR BEAR CLUB, THE SWELLERS and TEXAS IN JULY. Kicking off at Boston’s Paradise Rock Club on April 22nd, the annual nationwide charity tour will circle the US, presenting the best bands in music today while raising funds and awareness for Sex, Etc. and the concept that we can all play a part in making a positive impact in the world. Ten percent of the cost of each ticket sold is donated to Sex, Etc. and Sub City 501c3 non-profits. Pre-sale tickets go on sale today at: http://tixx1.artistarena.com/takeactiontour/.

“Growing up, every local show we played was a charity show,” says Silverstein vocalist Shane Told. “It was an important part of the scene that we were doing what we loved and more importantly helping others. To step back into that and work with our label to give back, it feels really great. We were a part of Take Action Tour in 2006, and when we had the opportunity to co-headline the tour this year, we jumped at the chance. We couldn’t be more proud to be leading the charge this year with our best friends, Bayside.”

Echoes Bayside bassist Nicholas Ghanbarian, “We’re really excited to be part of Take Action Tour because we’ve never been on a tour where part of the proceeds is going to charity which is great. We’re also super excited to be heading out on the road with some friends that we haven’t played with in years!”

“We were honored to have been contacted by Take Action Tour’s record label, Hopeless Records, which was looking for a nonprofit organization to be a part of the 2011 tour,” explains Answer’s Executive Director Elizabeth Schroeder, Ed. D, M.S.W. “It’s amazing that both the company and the artists they represent have been willing over the years to help educate young people about what organizations around the country are doing to serve others. We’re very grateful that Answer has been chosen to be a part of this year’s tour.”

As the teen-focused program of Answer, the award-winning national organization based at NJ’s Rutgers University, Sex, Etc.’s mission is to improve teen sexual health information and resources across the country. “Our organization’s tag line, ‘Sex Ed, Honestly,’ reflects our core belief that young people have the right to receive honest, accurate and age-appropriate information about the entire range of topics related to sexuality,” she continues. “For 30 years, we have reached millions of young people, community and school professionals, and parents throughout the United States.”

With an active online community (sexetc.org) and a national magazine of the same name, Sex, Etc. serves as a resource and destination for teens seeking advice and healthy communication on questions about sex, relationships, pregnancy, STDs, contraception, sexual orientation, and more.

Presenting sponsor Hot Topic has worked with Take Action Tour since the tour’s inception in 1999 and their commitment to helping make a positive impact continues to be as strong in 2011 as it has ever been. The music lifestyle mall retailer (hottopic.com) is a natural fit as a presenter, because they demonstrate a passion for music in everything they do. Expect to see the bands from the tour making several special appearances at local Hot Topic locations throughout the tour. Also generously supporting the 2011 tour are Alternative Press, LifeStyles Condoms, Hopeless Records, Wind-up Records, Bridge Nine Records, Fueled By Ramen and Equal Vision Records.

Learn more about this years benefiting charity…
Sex, Etc.

22 Comments

  1. Brian
    Posted May 9, 2011 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    Give it a rest. Don’t you have better things to do than to bash a Christian band that has only 25,000 fans? Why don’t you convict Underoath for playing at ozzfest or playing with bands like Slipknot and Disturbed. At least Underoath has a fanbase of over 800,000 and are at the age of 30. Texas in July still have kids in high school. You do realize younger people are conflicted with beliefs because things are thrown at them. Let them do what they want and serioulsy just leave them alone they are like a 1/4 of your age. You have had time to think about these things they have not.

    • Posted May 9, 2011 at 9:26 am | Permalink

      Brian

      As I have no problem with any band playing secular shows. The problem is that this tour is a direct financial benefit for sexetc.org. I also tried very hard to talk to the band and reason with them before I wrote anything here, they chose to ignore everything.

      • Brian
        Posted May 9, 2011 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

        What do you think is spent on gas and food for the people of Sexect? I would say 100 to 200 on gas a day depending upon the driving and I don’t know lets say 10 people from Sex ect are there so that is 10 bucks a meal and we will give them 2 and a half meals. So 350 to 450 a day is spent on gas and food. So in reality they are making about 15,000 of this tour. I do not agree wit this group but 15,000 is really not all that much. Also you have to include all the free junk they will try to give away so take maybe another 500 off the top. Taking one number and running with it is not the best way. People will see 27 billion dollars was made in quarter one for Apple(the company does not matter just an example) but the actual profit was about 5 billion. You cannot take the top number and say that is what they made. You have to take what they spend to survive. Unless free food and gas is handed to them I highly doubt 30,000 will be made on this tour. If you can get a more appropriate estimate than me please correct me. I am just taking numbers from the band Oh, Sleeper. I will be praying for you Bryan. I want to see your ministry thrive but this is not how you make it thrive.

      • Brian
        Posted May 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

        Oh and also I have read there are Sexect people there to answer questions so they are on tour with them.

      • Posted May 9, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

        Brian even with your calculations that means TIJ is helping to raise $15,000 for sexetc and that is wrong. What numbers from Oh Sleeper are you talking about?

        Let me ask you this question? If this was a tour to support the KKK would you say so what, it just a tour and $15,000 was just a small amount of money.

        How about this part of the TIJ press release: Christian teens, like all teens, have questions. They need information. They need guidance. And if Texas in July tells them, “Here is this Web site with accurate information,” and we at Sex, Etc. say, “Here’s this information — now go talk with your parents about it,” we’re both playing important roles in helping young people stay healthy and safe. That is our only agenda and our only motivation for doing what we do.”

        This was put put by TIJ showing they are sending kids to this web site for their information.

      • Brian
        Posted May 9, 2011 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

        I do not see anywhere on their Facebook that if you need any help with a decision on an abortion go to this website from Texas in July. Most people do not read internet blogs on bands anymore. So if it is in a blog it will reach maybe 1/500 people. The KKK thing was a bad example because I do not think most people Christian or not would even support them. Sexect. seems to only give the option to have an abortion they give the Pros and Cons which every school does too they do not say go get one. In my Anatomy and Physiology class we had a week of sex ed and the teacher even went over abortion this teacher was also religious. So the question comes did she go against what she believes in and should she have refused to teach and risk losing her job? No, these guys need money right now and for all you know they could be saying we do not agree with abortion but safe sex is a must during their shows again options about how to talk about safe sex. I do not think one tour will define their band. Silverstein is the most popular band on the list here and they do not headline shows often. So in all honesty this is not a career defining tour this is just a jump start. If they were on tour with August Burns Red or Underoath then you could say that they are in a tour that defines what they do. Here is the Oh, sleeper breakdown of money spending http://www.theprp.com/2010/07/27/news/oh-sleeper-guitarist-explains-why-mid-level-bands-make-no-money/ More than likely Sexect is eating healthy meals on this tour that is why I say 20 to 25 bucks is a good amount a day on food.

        Lets say that I get a girl prego and she does not know what to do the last thing I would do is look at a band. In all honesty I would not ask anyone from a band I would probably go to my past youth leader or close friend for help because I actually know them as people. One of my best friends sister was pregnant and the only person she told was her youth director. I hghly doubt any Christian girl would be dumb enough to look at a band and make impulse choice like that without talking to a real person first.

    • JoAnna
      Posted May 9, 2011 at 11:35 am | Permalink

      I’m curious, Brian – do you see the irony of you telling Bryan to ignore TiJ’s support of abortion while refusing to take your own advice?

      If you think Bryan should ignore TiJ, then it follows that you have no basis for telling Bryan what he should or shouldn’t blog about. Take your own advice and just ignore him.

      • Brian
        Posted May 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

        It is hard to ignore him when I have friends who listen to him and are telling me to not support a small Christian band anymore because of one little tour.

        • Posted May 9, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

          brian this is not just one little tour, it is the biggest tour of their lives and it is being defined by the money it is raising for sextec.org and their support of sexetc.org. I am asking you to help hold them accountable if they are going to portray themselves as a Christian band. What is more important, the music you like or principle?

  2. rain
    Posted May 10, 2011 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    i am not defending texas in july’s decision on this tour, but i do hope to offer insight into it. i am speaking as a musician in a band.

    first of all, bryan, your messages probably never made it to an actual band member.

    second of all, if they have a contract with a recording company and/or producer and so forth- they be legally indebted to do this tour.

    most importantly: if this tour plays a part in bringing the band to greater fame- their pro-life message will be spread to thousands more because of it. this tour may cause them to greater spread the message or even make more money to contribute to the cause.

    again, i am not defending their position, just pointing out some things. i strongly supported dave mustaine of megadeth for refusing to play with a known satanic band, as he is a christian. personally, i’d never play for any pro-abortion cause. then again i am also not in high school and am wiser than to get myself into a situation where i might have to.

    • Posted May 10, 2011 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

      Rain thank you for your comment.

      I do understand that the bands manager and publicist probably lies to me when they promised to get my messages to the band. I did however obtain a personal e-mail address for one member from another band. That was ignored.

      The bigger problems came when the band deleted hundreds of questions posted on their facebook without answering anyone. Then they released a statement which really confused most people. I am not sure if you saw that statement but I analyze it in this article.

      http://bryankemper.com/2011/05/04/self-pro-claimed-christian-band-confirms-their-support-for-pro-abortion-web-site-sexetc-org/

      In this statement one the most troubling things was a perceived support of sexetc.org with the statement that TIJ is pointing kids to sexetc.org for “accurate” information. This was put out by them and that is what escalated this higher.

      I guess I would say that something bands can learn from this is to find out what they are getting into before they sign any contract.

      • rain
        Posted May 11, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

        there was no statement that TIJ is pointing kids to sexetc.org –

        there was this: “Christian teens, like all teens, have questions. They need information. They need guidance. AND IF Texas in July tells them, “Here is this Web site with accurate information,” and we at Sex, Etc. say, “Here’s this information — now go talk with your parents about it,” we’re both playing important roles in helping young people stay healthy and safe. ”

        that is an “IF” – they never actually stated TIJ was in fact doing this, and i have seen no evidence that TIJ actually is referring anyone to sexetc in any way.

        regarding the band’s facebook page- some musicians run their own page, others do not. i do not know the case with TIJ. a musician friend of mine pays someone to manage her FB account- she never personally looks at it. in all honesty, you do not know for sure that “the band” deleted anything, unless jeremy here is from the band.

        “We are excited to be sharing our music with an entirely new audience and will continue to let our music speak for itself.”

        have you considered that their very plan may be what i suggested? to gain greater exposure to a wider audience where they can better spread their christian/anti-abortion message?

        regarding what a band can learn- they were a small unknown band just out of high school. they probably jumped on any offer they got. if you had experience in the music industry, you would never write:

        “I guess I would say that something bands can learn from this is to find out what they are getting into before they sign any contract.”

        you really never can know unless you have the money to hire one of the best attorneys. i could give you a list of bands who got into terrible contracts. the beatles were one of them.

        bryan, if you want to find out what is going on and have not already, contact their BOOKING AGENT daveshapiro@theagencygroup.com

        ask him why he booked a christian band on such a tour, considering the negative impact it could have. booking their gigs is, after all, his job.

        again, to make clear my position- personally i would immediately withdraw from any tour that supported a pro-abortion group, but that is me.

        let God judge them.

  3. Jeremy
    Posted May 11, 2011 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    The messages get to the band. We will continue to pursue a personal relationship with God. It disgusts us to think that the band name is invoked in this debate that may, in any small part, serve to fracture the pro-life movement and push people to take sides. So much time, so much energy, uugh. God is Love.

    • Posted May 11, 2011 at 12:32 am | Permalink

      Jeremy what worries me then is that someone close to the band told me they did not get the messages, that the first they heard anything was when the comments showed up on their facebook. That means someone is lying.

  4. rain
    Posted May 11, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    bryan-

    “I guess I would say that something bands can learn from this is to find out what they are getting into before they sign any contract.”

    i forgot to say “thank you” for posting that. while i pointed out that this is very difficult to do, your point is quite pertinent. bands: spend some time reading a proposed contract, have an attorney look it over, get to know who you will be working for and with!

    however, bryan- i do have to say, i see your suggestion that sexetc had stated that TIJ was pointing kids their direction and it concerns me:

    “In this statement one the most troubling things was a perceived support of sexetc.org with the statement that TIJ IS pointing kids to sexetc.org for “accurate” information. This was put out by them and that is what escalated this higher. ”

    they never made such a statement:

    “Christian teens, like all teens, have questions. They need information. They need guidance. AND IF Texas in July tells them, “Here is this Web site with accurate information,” and we at Sex, Etc. say, “Here’s this information — now go talk with your parents about it,” we’re both playing important roles in helping young people stay healthy and safe. ”

    you may have misunderstood the statement, but if not- you are misrepresenting the facts and stretching them to achieve your own end.

    i hope in this case it was the former, and not the latter- because one thing the pro-life movement must do is stay focused on fact and truth. skewing information is not going to win any support, and even if it did, would it be right?

    the fact is, biological science universally agrees that at conception a new living human being comes into existence- and that abortion ends that life.

    we do not need to ever misrepresent or stretch anything. this is a universal fact. we do not even need to bring religion into it- the facts are already on our side.

    who made it that way? 😉

    • Posted May 11, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

      Rain then again the band needs to read any statement that goes out in their name long before it goes out public. They posted this on their facebook page and that statements suggests that TIJ would point kids to sexetc.org

      I have also been informed that the band is not allowed to talk about this subject at the shows, they are required to send kids to the sexetc.org table. If that is true it is something that is of real concern. If they were there to be a light in the darkness they would be countering the message of sexetc.org.

      I have sent messages offering to provide literature and of course was ignored again.

  5. rain
    Posted May 12, 2011 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    bryan, thank you for your continued replies.

    did you see the other post i made above? please email their booking agent (i provided the address there) and ask him what he was thinking when he booked a christian band on a tour benefiting a pro-abortion organisation. he, or their other booking agent- are responsible for getting the band on this tour.

    you were informed the band is not allowed to talk about this subject at the shows? not surprising. another thing they are probably not allowed to do is decide what tours they do or do not go on. that has been my main point- the band likely has very little control over anything.

    this is why i have never signed with a label.

    don’t boycott the band- protest their manager/booking agent.

    a boycott by christians is not likely to really affect them anyway, as i would bet their target audience is primarily non-christian. they do not really need to spread the message of christ to those who already got it. in fact, with the way publicity goes, any large boycott of them is likely to INCREASE attention to the band and the tour.

    recent history will easily confirm this in many mediums- music, film….

    in other words, your boycott will probably do more harm than good to our cause.

    seriously, i had never even heard of this band prior to a facebook post to boycott them.

    at least they are not playing at an actual outright pro-abortion gig, like self-proclaimed christian artist MOBY did. i stopped buying any of his stuff after that, and after reading he is pro-legal abortion. what kind of sense does that make? he is also very pro-animal rights. so he is against the killing of animals, but for the killing of human babies. go figure.

    talk to him! i’ve been meaning to do it for years. 😉

  6. rain
    Posted May 12, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    sure! just remove that number asap before the wrong people get it. is there a ‘best time’ to call?

    • Posted May 12, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

      call anytime between now and 6:30 PM or anytime after 8:30 PM – Midnight Eastern time

  7. rain
    Posted May 12, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    thank you for taking the time to speak with me, bryan.

    to anyone else reading- bryan said one thing in particular which i can in no way disagree with- it went something like this:

    “‘texas in july’ has stated that they are a christian band. when one states this, there are certain standards that must be lived up to.”

    i agree in full- those standards include not playing at any event which benefits a pro-abortion organisation.

    regardless of anything else, they should do their best to live up to those standards.

  8. Carol
    Posted May 14, 2011 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    @rain: Thank you so much for your thoughtful posts here. I sort’ve butted heads with Bryan on the Facebook support page. I do understand where he is coming from, but I just feel this whole boycott thing is counterproductive. You brought up some of the very things I’ve considered in your posts. I have a brother who was in a band once, and my niece has an uncle who is a well-known session guitarist in the industry who has worked with many famous musicians over the years. I remember my brother’s band having people that handled contracts, scheduling, press releases, etc. And mistakes sometimes happened. My nieces uncle has a management company handle things for him. As you correctly assert, TIJ has PR and Management teams that probably handle email contacts, the Facebook page, and the band website. Bryan may not have been aware of this, which is understandable. The lack of return contact from the band understandably frustrates him. This fracture and division among Christians and Pro-Lifers is sad to see. This doesn’t reflect well on those non-believes that are fans of TIJ. Thanks for providing the contact info for their booking agent. I definitely intend to drop an email in his direction, and ask exactly what you suggested.

    • Posted May 14, 2011 at 7:11 am | Permalink

      Carol

      Just a few points. I have been in the music industry for over 20 years and I am very aware of how it works. I actually did talk directly to to their manager and publicist before talking about this tour publicly. I also had personal e-mail not those handled by anyone else. I obtained this e-mail from another band who plays with TIJ.

      I waited a week before writing my first story and then waited days after the public started asking the band questions on their facebook. It was not until after they deleted every single pro-life question and released the statement which included an endorsement for sexetc.org that I started the boycott page.

      Here is a question I would like to ask everyone. If TIJ was playing a tour that was giving 10 Percent of ticket sales to the KKK, would everyone still call it just a mistake? Would people expect them to pull off that tour and renounce ever being affiliated to it? I bet that is what the band would do.

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