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Tough Questions – Situational Abortion: Rape, Incest…

Trough out the whole experience with the Pro- life Day of Silent Solidarity I have been asked a lot of questions regarding “situational abortion”. What if the girl was raped? What if she was poor and the baby was going to have a hard life? The problem with these questions is that they are looking at situations rather than the core of the issue, personhood. These are arguments for the procedure of abortion that ignore the personhood of the child.

While all of these situations can be heart wrenching and seem logical, they have to be weighed against the core truth of personhood. Every single child from the moment of fertilization is a full human person. We cannot take the life of an innocent human person and, therefore, those situations are not valid arguments for the procedure of abortion.

I especially wonder how so many Christians can support these situational arguments. We have the ultimate truth in the Word of God to guide us in questions like these. The Bible clearly states, “thou shalt not commit murder”. There are no exceptions written next to that commandment, no footnotes that claim in highly emotional cases it is ok. It is a command.

We also have scripture that tells us about the life and the begriming of life. I am sure you have all heard the most popular verse for pro-lifers about God forming us in the womb. Have you read Psalm 51:5? Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. From the moment of conception you have sin. What does sin stain? It stains your soul, not your flesh. You have a soul at the moment of conception.

Lets look at Luke chapter 1: 39 At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, 40 where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!”

Elizabeth was pregnant with John the Baptist and was about 6 months along in her pregnancy. Mary was only a few days pregnant with Jesus when John the Baptist recognized the personhood of Christ and leapt in the womb. It cannot be any clearer when life begins.

When we talk about abortion we must always bring it back to the core issue, personhood. If the child in the womb was not a human person abortion would not matter. The child is, however, a human person and therefore must be afforded all rights as a human person. If we say that in certain circumstances that abortion is ok, then we are saying that there are times when the child is not a human person: that is simply not the case.

20 Comments

  1. kate
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    so… what your saying is that if a woman’s life is in immediate danger and she is pregnant, it is okay to let that woman die even if doing so does not save the baby? because the baby is a human being and the mother is an incubator who should be willing to sacrifice herself?

    • Danielle Chase
      Posted February 23, 2011 at 2:11 am | Permalink

      No Kate that is not even CLOSE to what he is saying maybe you should re-read that and relieze your question is absurd and has nothing to do with the passage!! Stop trying to just cause problems and open up your mind!!

      • dude
        Posted February 16, 2012 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

        So if the woman is going to die if she has the baby. Then she should sacrifice herself. What happened to her choice?

  2. John
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    Bryan,
    I doubt that you’ll answer my question, but here goes: is a therapeutic abortion (that is, an abortion to protect the mother’s health/life) morally equivalent to an elective abortion?
    Based on your “answers” to these “tough questions,” it’s clear that you see no moral difference between a woman who has a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy and someone who gets a late-term abortion because she simply doesn’t want to have a baby. Your black-and-white approach to both of these situations would be the same.

    Quite frankly, your argument about so-called “situational abortions” (which seems to be little more than repetition of the word “personhood”), dodges the issue entirely. To illustrate, I can recognize the “personhood” of a burglar who points a gun at me and threatens my life, but I’d argue that killing him in self-defense, while tragic, would be morally justifiable.

    • Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:23 am | Permalink

      John

      An ectopic pregnancy is a totally different situation that an abortion. The baby will die not matter what, 100 percent of the time. The act of removing the section of tube is not a direct abortion, the intent is not to go in a kill the child. The secondary effect of the removal of that section of tube is that the dead child, or child who will die no matter what is also removed. There is no direct abortion and therefore nothing morally wrong with the procedure.

      You cannot call a criminal pointing a gun at your the same as a child in the womb, one is an intentional aggressor trying to kill you. The child in the womb will pose certain threats to the mother in every singe pregnancy, some of them are more severe. The only cause of action would be to do everything possible to save both persons, not try and kill one. If a mother was diagnosed with bone marrow cancer and the only way to save her was to take the bone marrow of her 3 month old newborn and it would result in that newborns death, that would never be accepted. The fact is you cannot choose to kill an innocent person just to save your own life.

      • Posted October 19, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

        see, this is what the situation was with my aunt during her pregnancy. the doctors were almost 100% sure the her and the baby would NOT survive. my aunt was just having too many problems, and the docs highly doubted that she would make it. she decided to go on with it. she lost WAY to much blood, and the child was about 3 months premature. but guess what? they both made it.
        my cousin is now 8 years old, and healthy as ever, not knowing she almost died, and took her mother with her.
        but they survived. <3
        so, to me, there is absolutely no excuse.

    • Posted December 30, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

      The issue really here is that the baby is INNOCENT. You say that a person pointing a gun at someone else is a justifiable excuse to kill that person, right?
      What did the baby actually do wrong? The parents brought the child into this world. They created the life. They were the ones that decided let’s have a baby (I’m assuming that since you only mentioned the idea of the mother dying). They should have the baby. The Bible is very black and white. So these statements being black and white make sense too. Why should we decide what is right when the Lord already told us?
      Is it hard to hear the answer sometimes? Yes. Does the Lord have a reason we can’t always understand? Yes. So this is where faith and trust comes into play that the Lord will stand by His promises to bring good out of every situation.

    • Mai pai
      Posted February 16, 2012 at 4:39 am | Permalink

      We are Pro-life. The goal is to save as many LIVES as possible. If 2 people are dyeing and you have the opportunity to save one of course we will do it. It’s pro-LIFE not just pro baby.

  3. Jane
    Posted December 1, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Just wanted to say Thank you Bryan for claifying that for me. I get tough questions like this thrown at me from time to time and was in need of a good response like this.

  4. Hannah
    Posted December 7, 2010 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Bryan, I’d really like for you to answer a question for me. I’ve been discussing the issue of abortion a lot with a friend, who is a Christian, but a situational pro-lifer. The rationalization that she gave me was this: “In the end, everything works out alright. God plans everything, so, if you think about it, he planned for these abortions to happen.”
    I know that there’s a flaw in her argument, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Would you provide me with a way to answer her?

    • Posted June 11, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

      If I may…

      I have been in the rape position, as the rape victim. I have heard things like this and it pains me to hear it.

      What I have come to realize is that God did not plan the abortions. God only makes good, therefore, HE PLANNED THE CHILD TO MAKE GOOD OF THE BAD THAT HAS OCCURRED TO THE WOMAN. God creates all children, does He not?

  5. JDollar
    Posted May 23, 2011 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Regarding the question of rape, the first step is to show why abortion will not help a raped woman in her situation. Most women who are raped decide to keep their child and they find them very comforting and healing after such a traumatic memory.

    Most of the women who were raped and chose to abort, ended up regretting that decision and had a lot of guilt over what they did, for some that guilt was more overwhelming than the trauma of being raped.

    This is critical and women need to understand there is nothing about abortion that can heal a woman from being raped. It can only stand to make things worst while raising a childcan bring a lot of joy.

    To those who say it is better for the child to be aborted in that scenario, they have to ask themselves, there are plenty of children who are born as a product of rape would it be okay to kill them? There are children of rape who are happy to be alive, what about what they want? Even if the mother isn’t able to raise the child and he/she ends up in an orphanage, is that worse than being dead? These are the questions that need to be asked.

    Many on the pro-choice side will bring up the question of rape as if abortion is the best option in that situation and anyone should be ashamed to say otherwise. The pro-life comm. needs to tear down these taboos and explain that death is not a solution and we don’t need to sacrifice a child’s life in order to resolve a situation.

    • dude
      Posted February 16, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

      The women that get pregnant by rape have a choice: keep the baby or not. Some keep, others don’t. It is all about choice. Something EVERYBODY should have.

      • tb
        Posted February 18, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

        You say EVERYBODY should have a choice, but in abortion, the baby has no choice. The woman can choose not the “keep” the baby without getting an abortion. There are so many who are waiting to adopt. That is an option that seems to be rarely considered.

  6. dude
    Posted February 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    A lot of these posts mention God and Christianity. A lot of people are not Christians and some don’t even believe in God. An issue this large that involves EVERYBODY across the nation should not have Religion as a reason not to do it.

  7. Brittany Yarbrough
    Posted February 17, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Even if the woman might die, I believe she should keep the child anyway. The reason being is that God created that child. What gives us the right to decide who lives and who dies? If the Lord decides that the mother needs to live, she’ll live. If the Lord decides the baby needs to die, the baby will die. It happens. We can’t make that decision for our King. Taking someone’s life by our own hands is saying that we have HIS power and HIS judgement, and honestly, we don’t. That’s just how it is. It’s sad sometimes, but all works together for His glory. It says so in the Bible.

    • dude
      Posted February 22, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

      read my February 16 post

    • Madison
      Posted February 23, 2012 at 6:55 am | Permalink

      I believe this is a ridiculous statement. By that logic do you believe that diseases should not be treated because is up to God who gets them? Cancer should not be treated because it is time for that woman/man/child to die? We have the ability to save lives, and not doing so would be murder. God wants us to help eachother. He does not want us to have to live in pain or die tragically when there are means to prevent that.

    • dude
      Posted March 6, 2012 at 9:52 am | Permalink

      What if that woman don’t want to die? What if she doesn’t want to keep her rapist’s baby? What if she doesn’t want to keep her Father’s baby? According to these post, she has to have the baby and doesn’t have a choice. The only thing that absolute “NO” abortion will do is cause a lot of “ACCIDENTAL” miscarriages.

  8. dude
    Posted March 6, 2012 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    A lot of these posts mention God and Christianity. A lot of people are not Christians and some don’t even believe in God. An issue this large that involves EVERYBODY across the nation should not have Religion as a reason not to do it.

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